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Fox Sports- Rosenthal: Yanks’ Mussina to retire after first 20-win season
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NY Post: BERNIE: I’M NOT DONE YET
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Newsday: Yankees gunning for Derek Lowe, A.J. Burnett, sources say
(136 Comments - 11/19/2008 3:09:46 pm)

If the 2009 Season Started On November 16, 2008
(109 Comments - 11/18/2008 2:26:32 pm)

Newsday-O’Brien:  Source: Yankees offer CC Sabathia lucrative deal
(111 Comments - 11/18/2008 10:13:45 am)

Breaking Down the Nick Swisher Trade
(85 Comments - 11/15/2008 10:30:24 am)

ESPN: Sources: Yankees acquire Swisher, send Marquez to White Sox
(109 Comments - 11/14/2008 9:09:43 am)

Is Damaso Marte Worth his New Contract?
(38 Comments - 11/13/2008 5:37:55 pm)

Impacto Deportivo: Exclusiva; Dámaso Marte firma por 12 millones de dólares con los Yanquis
(48 Comments - 11/13/2008 10:19:22 am)

Newsday: Despite economy, Yanks will be big spenders
(19 Comments - 11/12/2008 12:58:50 pm)



Player

Current Projected
Brian Bruney
11 G
15 G
12 IP
16 IP
Dan Giese
11 G
15 G
21.7 IP
29 IP
Damaso Marte
5 G
7 G
4.7 IP
6 IP
Edwar Ramirez
37 G
49 G
40.7 IP
54 IP
Mariano Rivera
44 G
58 G
48.3 IP
64 IP
David Robertson
14 G
19 G
16.3 IP
22 IP
Jose Veras
38 G
50 G
38.7 IP
51 IP
Total
274 G
364 G
328.3 IP
435 IP

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Sunday, August 26, 2007

Should We Be Worried about Phil Hughes?

Consider the following list of pitchers:

Jeremy Bonderman
Roger Clemens
Jon Garland
Tom Glavine
Roy Halladay
Al Leiter
Greg Maddux
Jake Peavy
Brad Penny
Jose Rijo
C.C. Sabathia
Johan Santana
John Smiley
John Smoltz
Jeff Suppan
Javier Vazquez

Obviously the first thing that comes to mind is that they've all been decent to great pitchers in MLB, varying from league average inning-eaters to future Hall of Famers and everything in between. The other thing that this group of pitchers has in common is that they all debuted in the majors by the age of 22.

Here's how this group of pitchers did collectively prior to turning 23.

Age W L RA ERA G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA+ HR+ BB+ K+
<23 194 225 5.14 4.68 759 3556.1 3620 2031 1850 398 1532 2596 90 105 93 106


ERA+, HR+, BB+, and K+ are how the pitchers' ERA, HR rate, BB rate, and K rate compared to league average. 100 is exactly average, less than 100 is worse than average, greater than 100 is better than average.

Here's how that same group of pitchers has done since turning 23 through the end of 2006.

Age W L RA ERA G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA+ HR+ BB+ K+
23+ 2090 1379 3.79 3.45 4974 30660.2 28383 12921 11758 2677 9104 23953 131 140 136 116


The point is, some pretty good pitchers have struggled in the majors before making the adjustments necessary to cope with big league batters. In other words, Phil Hughes wouldn't be the first pitcher to have a rough time when he first got to the majors and then improve.

That aside, I will admit that I was hoping to see better fastball velocity from Hughes, but given the injuries and missed time this season I'm willing to be patient. I'm also concerned that he doesn't seem to be the ground ball machine that he was in the minors to this point, although I have no idea how GB% translates from the majors to the minors. Hughes gave up six HRs in 275 minor league innings, and gave up 3 HRs in just six innings today, although Granderson's shouldn't really be considered a HR.

Hughes has a respectable FIP and xFIP of 4.18 and 4.28 respectively. He has struck out 22.5% of the hitters he has faced in the majors, compared to the AL starter average of 16.8%. One problem he's had is a higher than average walk rate, walking 9.4% of the batters he's faced compared to the AL average starter's 8.4%. His HR rate is also a touch above average thanks to today's game, at 3.1% compared to 2.6%. This matches up pretty nicely with the two tables above, which show that this selected group of pitchers all improved their HR rate and BB rate over time.

All in all, Hughes's peripherals indicate that he's not necessarily pitched as badly as you'd think if you looked at just his ERA of 5.35. That's probably at least partially a function of the big innings that Hughes has fallen victim to so far, which I think are innings where he's had to adjust to what wasn't working and part of the learning process.

Hughes is certainly not a sure thing, no pitching prospect is, but if he turns out to be a disappointment then every single scout that raved about him and every single stat he put up in the minors will have turned out to be wrong. I guess this is all a really long way of answering the question in the title. No, we should not be worried about Phil Hughes.

As for the rest of the team, I'm not particularly worried either. This has been a rough road trip, but I didn't expect it to be a good one. I'll just hope against hope that Mike Mussina can pitch serviceably well and the Yankees can steal tomorrow's game and head home for Boston on an up note.
--Posted at 5:54 pm by SG / 35 Comments | - (1125)



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