Is it safe to say that when the Red Sox sit down to deal with Jason Bay, they’ll do a financial analysis of what his poor throw to the IF cost them in terms of postseason revenue, roll the tape, and then talk him down 6-10M?

The amazing thing about Pavano is that after all those years with the Yankees, we still know nothing about his pitches.

i just hope we can shake this MT curse

Motor Trend?

[3]
Ha!

Why is Melky starting?  Does anyone here want him out there?

Speaking of puzzling platoon choices, is anyone keeping up with the whole Ronnie Belliard / Orlando Hudson thing in L.A.  Any insights from Torre haters?

[6] Given that hje’s played OF in the dome already, no.

how does an 885 OPS at catcher only give you 1.3 WAR.

That is weird. Playing time? His slash line is better than Damon’s, and Damon is around 3 WAR in a corner outfield spot…

I guess it’s the defense. I went back to the last few game threads to look, and it’s the same.

how does an 885 OPS at catcher only give you 1.3 WAR.

1) Looking at a rate stat like OPS ignores playing time.  Posada only got 438 PAs this year.  In terms of total batting runs above replacement he’s 3rd behind Joe Mauer and Victor Martinez, but Mauer got 600 PAs and Victor Martinez got 672.  I do adjust the runs above replacement by each position played, so Mauer’s time at DH gets compared to DHs and Martinez’s time at 1B gets compared to 1B, but that’s big difference in playing time.

2) Defense.  I have Posada at around -10 for the year.  That’s um, not good.

3) Baserunning.  Posada’s non-SB baserunning is rated at -8 according to Baseball Prospectus.

So if he was an average defender and an average baserunner, he’d be at 3.1 WAR.  But he’s not, so he isn’t.

Admittedly, we are a lot more comfortable assessing offense than we are defense and baserunning, so how much weight you want to give to each component could change things.

Fangraphs has Posada at 4 WAR this season, which is a pretty big discrepancy

Ah, didn’t see [12] before I posted [13]. Thanks for the explanation.

Woot ! Pap gets smeared.

I don’t feel sorry for any Sox fans. Not a one. Being a fan involves choice.

It is my contention that everyone either IS a Yankee fan, or wishes they COULD BE one.

[8] Melky played a lousy outfield in game 2.  Why didn’t he make an attempt on the triple that Damon messed up?  He jogged over and go to close. Why didn’t Melky attempt a sliding catch on Mauer’s double?  The guy is just BLAH as a ballplayer!

Yeah, Fangraphs uses neither catcher defense or baserunning in their version of WAR.

Pavano ONLY got $39.5M (including the buyout for the option year). He then fired his agent for not getting the deal done for the $40M and withheld the agent’s commission. Seriously.

Getting beat by Pavano tonight will seriously suck.  It doesn’t matter whether you have any anger for him or not.

seriously Yankees, please fuck this guy up.

[16]  Sorry, meant that given that Gardner‘s already played in the Dome, no reason not to start him ... unless Girardi wants to PR him.  (Stupid idea, yes, but who knows.)

Can the Yankees maybe score first in one of these games?

Wow, Pavano makes our guys look like chumps….I’m gonna call a quality start for Carl as of right now.  Just so as not to be overly grim, I’ll also call a Yanks win, 4-3.

Well, not the best first inning. But that hasn’t been their forte this year.

Be nice to wrap it up tonight.

Pavano is a true ace. He should be a red sock.

did mlb add a sync feature that doesn’t work just to piss me off? I’m so unhappy with this.

[25] I hear thet have like 20 aces, but the closer job may be open.

This is the first time I’ve noticed this, but does Jeter cross himself in his pre-at-bat routine?

Strike one to Mauer - but, of course, the umpire calls strikes based on where the catcher is set up so since Posada reached back, its a ball….

Geez, Pettitte hit 92 on the 2nd pitch to Mauer.  Has he thrown a pitch that fast all year?

[27] snicker….. Good one.

[30] Pumped up for the playoffs? Pumped up to face a true legend in Pavana?

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MLB Postseason TV is seriously pissing me off.
It doesn’t work and was a waste of ten dollars.

I have a black screen up and i’m now listening to 880.
Maybe I got banned for being in NYC? It “worked” a second ago…..

What the F was wrong with the 0-2 pitch, blue ?

They’ve looked lousy first time through the order this whole series. Bizarre.

obviously [33] was to commiserate with [26].

Congratulations to Carl Pavano on his first perfect game.

I fear a perfecto in the making. This King Karl guy is too good for MLB.

Congrats to Carl Pavano on his first career perfect game. He is a true professional and no one deserves the success more than him.

I’m just eyeballing it, but it looks like the Yankees have scored <5 runs per game the last few weeks. I think a few guys are slumping (Damon, Melky?).

[36] There’s no reason I should have any trouble streaming this feed. My connection is usually around 15 Mbps which should be plenty to stream non HD footage.

[38] Maybe he’ll be able to parlay it into a whopping big contract. Somebody’s bound to overpay.

Fielded by Paul Blart…

That’s how you deal with Kubel, Marte. Take notes.

“Andy Pettite holds serve for the Yankees”...love the tennis reference.

[41] that is a ton of bandwith.

My biggest beef with postseason tv isn’t the fact that it goes black every half inning, it’s that the stupid multiangle feeds are worth a lot less than just the normal tv picture.

If I had that and could refresh it when it froze, I wouldn’t be heading out to a bar to watch the game.

In re the Wendy’s radio commercial for “Wendy’s chicken with Asian sauce”, am I the only one who finds this funny?

Andy doing well in Brett Farvray Stadium. Can’t match zero’s with the King much longer.  Who could?

The place is crawling with TV cameras and producers. Why on earth do you need to show the stadium panorama from inside a video game simulation ? In case people don’t want to watch, uh…the broadcast actually taking place in said stadium.

I get that the answer is they were paid to do so and it’s actually a stealth commercial. But c’mon, that’s cheesy.

The Twin Cities are under attack, Pavano has come to save them.

The postseason.tv is markedly worse today.

[46] I’m just guessing, but the multi-angle feeds may be forced by their contract with TBS? “You can’t sell our tv feed over the internet” or something like that.

nother first pitch strike

Anyone catch the head shot of Clark W. Griswold in his metrodome hat ?

Love how Caray says “that doesn’t miss by much” for a pitch by Pavano that was exactly the same as a Pettitte pitch for which he said nothing.

[46] Yeah, its the top of the line home cable package here in LA, we split it between two apartments and 8 people over a wireless signal. But I’m hardwired in.

[54] Yep, and he’s been good on Community so far.

[54] See Rusty beside him?

Gotta love Swish.

Swisher confusing the pitchtrax count with the Umpire’s alternate count.

Nick Swisher’s TYM.

This is a nightmare already.

Did Pavano strike out 4 people in his entire Yankee stint?

Note to the Yankees hitters, Pavano is going out of the zone on EVERY 3-2 pitch. Maybe one guy just take a walk.

Thank you, Melky.

Oh noes!! Melky you mojo breaker.

That was close. Punto almost got him the the slow-roll-throw.

There goes the perfecto.

Aaawwwww. Sniff.

Nice throw by Punta.

I’ll take the one hit. Maximum humiliation is no longer a possibility.

Right were we wannem.

[67] I remember Bernie making several throws like Punto’s in the 02 ALDS against the Angels.

Nice job, Swish

where.

And that, boys, is what it would look like with Damon playing 2nd.

[69] Complete game shutout loss at the soft hands of Pavano is still 9.5 on the humiliation scale.

That’s what it looks like with Damon playing LF…

[75] sure, but it’s a little bit better when you remember it goes up to 11.

Congratulations to Pavano on his first postseason shutout.

I like that Pettitte busted out the Miami Vice stubble for the playoffs.

[77] But 11 was only reached once in my lifetime, and it involved Kevin Brown.

You know what’s something I could hear Chip Caray say? “Andy Pettitte just knows his way around a mound, especially in October.” I don’t know why that popped in my head, but isn’t that just a typical Carayism?

9.5 out of 11 still ain’t very good.

[80] Reds in 76 was a 10.5.

This is unacceptable.

Girardi needs to get himself thrown out.

So….the story line of the game is that Pettitte has never pitched on artificial turf, in the postseason ?

There’s gotta be some other inane angle they could get more mileage out of. A-Rod’s contract ? A-Rod’s surgery ? A-Rod’s girlfriend ?  How his teammates do/don’t get along with A-Rod ? NYS being a launching pad, and the game isn’t being played there ? How the new Twins stadium won’t be a disgraceful launching pad ?

This is fucking ridiculous.

[83] I wasn’t alive to judge, but just knowing that they lost to Joe Morgan’s Reds is annoying.

Holy frack, that was high.  Umpires doing a bangup job again.  And once again, Darling making excuses saying that “that ball sinks” or some such crap.

[86] They could talk about the fact that if the Twins played outdoors, like the will next year, there is a chance the late innings of this game would be played in snow flurries.

Or explain why they are defending the ump when pitchtrax clearly disagrees.

WOE

Is that 6 K through 12 batters?

[88] It sucked. Yankees were the 99 Braves. 04 Cards. 27 Pirates, it just sucked.

13, I guess.

[90] They contractually can’t? They have no idea how pitchtrax works? They are raving idiots.

[89] I don’t think Darling understands that it suppose to be judge based on where it crosses the plate and if it wasn’t in the zone then but bends into the zone when it hits the mitt that still doesn’t make it a strike.

Or maybe he did too much cocaine with Straw and Doc.

STRIKE ONE!  Will Caray or Darling ever back the Yankees on these balls clearly in the zone?

Nice Frame by Posada there.

game day says Andy should have struck him out.

That works too.