Thursday, July 24, 2008
Rumored Trade Targets and Their Projected Value
In the last post, yup asked:SG, how about a projection of some of the pitchers on the rumor mill? say, Washburn, Arroyo, Lowe, Burnett vs. Ponson/Rasner? how many wins would replacing Ponson vs. Washburn get you? just an idea. thanks!
I like requests because then i don't have to think about what to write myself, so here we go.
| Pitcher | IP | IP/GS | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | ERA | FIP | RSAA | RSAR | FRAA | FRAR |
| Lowe,Derek | 74 | 6.2 | 77 | 32 | 7 | 19 | 44 | 3.90 | 4.01 | 1.6 | 8.4 | 0.7 | 7.4 |
| Burnett,A.J. | 81 | 6.7 | 77 | 37 | 8 | 31 | 68 | 4.13 | 3.96 | -0.2 | 7.1 | 1.3 | 8.7 |
| Arroyo,Bronson | 74 | 6.2 | 82 | 38 | 10 | 23 | 48 | 4.62 | 4.59 | -4.3 | 2.5 | -4.0 | 2.7 |
| Washburn,Jarrod | 69 | 5.8 | 78 | 36 | 9 | 21 | 36 | 4.70 | 4.77 | -4.6 | 1.7 | -5.1 | 1.2 |
| Rasner,Darrell | 66 | 5.5 | 78 | 36 | 8 | 17 | 35 | 4.91 | 4.49 | -5.9 | 0.1 | -2.8 | 3.2 |
| Ponson,Sidney | 65 | 5.4 | 78 | 39 | 11 | 26 | 41 | 5.44 | 5.36 | -9.6 | -3.7 | -9.0 | -3.1 |
FIP: Fielding independent pitching ERA (13 x HR + 3 x (BB + HBP) - 2 x SO) / IP + 3.2. This regresses BABIP to league average for everyone by focusing on the things a pitcher has direct control over.
RSAA: Runs saved above average. Park-adjusted league average relief RA (R/IP*9) - Individual relief RA divided by 9 times IP. Includes all runs, not just earned runs.
RSAR: Runs saved above replacement. I just multiply park-adjusted league average relief RA by 1.2, since AAA is about 80% of the quality of the AL.
FRAA: RSAA using FIP instead of RA.
FRAR: RSAR using FIP instead of RA.
I assumed 12 starts for everyone here, and used their average innings pitched per games started to project their playing time.
I'm not a big Derek Lowe fan, but at least statistically, he'd be a good pickup. A.J. Burnett would also be a good pickup, but odds are getting him from a divisional rival will not be easy, and he is a very good risk to get hurt. Getting Brandon Arroyo or Jarrod Washburn would only be an upgrade of a run or two on Darrell Rasner. Any of the trade targets would be a significant upgrade on Snacks Pontoon's projection, but then again, moving Johnny Damon to the mound might be as well.
The impact of mid-season trades is generally over-stated. No matter how good a player is, it's hard to have a huge impact over a couple of months. That being said, even though I'm not a huge Lowe fan, if he could be acquired relatively cheaply, I'd consider it. He's a free agent after this season and should be a Type-A, so the cost is not Lowe - who you trade for him, it's Lowe -who you trade for him plus Dodger first round pick plus supplemental pick. Burnett, eh. Always had a great arm but if he hasn't put it together yet, when is he going to? J.P. Ricciardi is a horse's ass who shifted his rotation to make sure Roy Halladay pitched against the Yankees. He'd probably ask for the Yankees' top five prospects for Burnett. Arroyo stinks. Washburn is mediocre AND is expensive. If he was only signed through year-end he might be worth a flier, but he's signed for 2009 at around $10 million. The only way picking him up makes sense to me is if Igawa goes in the deal. Then you're at least converting a sunk cost to a cost that could pay dividends.
Seriously, I think this teams needs a bat more than a pitcher. Jorge Posada and Hideki Matsui are likely out for the year, and they've been replaced by Richie Sexson.
Comments
Well, it depends on who the Sox replace Varitek with.
Kevin Cash? As awful as he is, he has the same OPS+ as Varitek, while being significantly cheaper.
Or they could take advantage of Texas Rangers and trade for Saltalamachhia, given that Teagarden seems ready, and they also have Max Ramirez. They certainly have the prospects to do that, and they are more willing than Yankees to move their prospects.
ESPN Radio’s Sportscenter update just said Hank said he will bring up the idea of signing He Who Shall Not Be Signed at today’s meetings.
Yes! More fireworks!
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So pretty…
But I thought we were told we should not talk about He Who Shall Not Be Signed and it was a waste of time?
HANK! BONDS!
Wow, Cowboy schooled Luke. Wrong year to talk about Jeter’s D- bring it up when he’s hurt again like 2007. If he plays avg D and hits like he has the past decade+ leave him at SS. I know it cant go on forever but 2-3 more yrs are a strong possibility. Of course, I would like to see him in CF too but not RF.
JD: I agree with you first post- go hospital like tey did to Sori and Jeter that time. Let Farnsworth finish them off and wait for them to try something. Sadly, I have a bad feeling about Joba tomorrow. I expect 5IP, 5ER but I think we will hit Becket.
As far as trades- does anyone disagree that we need a C to platoon w/Molina? And possibly a CF to platoon w/Melky? Is Teixera attainable and, if so, would IPK land him?
But I thought we were told we should not talk about He Who Shall Not Be Signed and it was a waste of time?
Hank isn’t on the GM listserv so he hasn’t read Selig’s threats.
I know what Cashman’s magic wand’s next trick should be: make Hankie STFU. Now *that* would be something.
I believe yup, Cowboy Popup, and SG (among others) are some of the smarter people here. If all three have close to the same opinion on something, I listen very carefully.
Double check for my username. Sob.
2008 : 2 (on pace for +4)
Gold Glove! Gold Glove! Gold Glove!
Is Teixera attainable and, if so, would IPK land him?
Sure, as long as Jackson, Hughes, and maybe Montero are being sent with him.
From a business standpoint, there’s no way they could move Jeter. I would bet that by himself he generates a lot of revenue, and as much as the Steinbrenners want to win, it’s still a business as well. There’s a reason they signed ARod for that much (on top of the fact that he is one of the best players ever).
Do we have any in-house replacements for Cano? Doesn’t seem like it…
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