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Wednesday, September 9, 2009

Rays (72-67) @ Yankees (90-50), Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 7:05pm **Game Chatter**

TBR: Jeff Niemann (26, RHP, 12-5, 3.67 ERA, 4.15 FIP, 2.9 WAR) vs NYY: Joba L Chamberlain (23, RHP, 8-5, 4.41 ERA, 4.48 FIP, 0.8 WAR)

Lineups
Tampa Bay Rays
Jason Bartlett, SS (.331/.392/.512, 4.1 WAR)
TSCC, LF (.305/.361/.453, 4.4 WAR)
Evan Longoria, 3B (.281/.359/.541, 4.9 WAR)
Ben Zobrist, 2B (.282/.396/.523, 5.4 WAR)
Pat Burrell, DH (.232/.333/.390, -0.4 WAR)
Chris Richard, 1B (.500/.667/.500, 0.1 WAR)
Gabe Gross, RF (.243/.346/.384, 1.0 WAR)
Dioner Navarro, C (.226/.256/.332, -1.2 WAR)
B.J. Upton, CF (.237/.309/.365, 0.6 WAR)
Total,  (.271/.347/.445, 18.9 WAR)

New York Yankees
Derek Jeter, SS (.327/.392/.466, 4.9 WAR)
Johnny Damon, LF (.286/.367/.507, 3.2 WAR)
Mark Teixeira, 1B (.282/.379/.549, 4.3 WAR)
Alex Rodriguez, 3B (.281/.407/.512, 3.1 WAR)
Hideki Matsui, DH (.269/.361/.504, 1.5 WAR)
Nick Swisher, RF (.254/.376/.506, 2.9 WAR)
Robinson Cano, 2B (.316/.348/.520, 2.5 WAR)
TSBG, CF (.270/.340/.392, 1.1 WAR)
Jose Molina, C (.245/.322/.302, -0.2 WAR)
Total,  (.288/.372/.496, 23.3 WAR)

Yankee Win Probability: 59.1%

There was a time not that long ago where a game that was being started by Joba Chamberlain was something to look forward to.  Nowadays, not so much.  Joba’s pitching his way off the postseason roster, so tonight’s an important game for him if he wants to stay there.  The Yankees need Joba to pitch better, because the prospect of having to use Chad Gaudin or Sergio Mitre as the #4 starter in the postseason if the Yankees are miraculously able to stave off the red-hot Red Sox isn’t particularly enticing, which makes this game important for them too.

So this game isn’t just important.  It’s double-important.

Go Yankees.

--Posted at 4:19 pm by SG / 184 Comments | - (220)

Comments

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TSBG?

Too Speedy Brett Gardner?

I have no idea…

Close.  THE Speedy Brett Gardner.  Just like TSCC = The Speedy Carl Crawford.

The

Just as in The Speedy Carl Crawford.

Ahh didn’t even notice TSCC in the Tampa lineup.

Who would win that footrace?

Just like TSCC

To me, that used to mean The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Glau-bot was a guilty pleasure of mine. ;_;

Who would win that footrace?

Is that like asking who would get picked off more?

Who would win that footrace?

The fans.

Glau-bot?

I tried watching TSCC, it was very disappointing.

Glau-bot?

I tried watching TSCC, it was very disappointing.

The chick terminator was played by Summer Glau.

Rousing start.

Say goodbye to the postseason, Joba.

I still believe. Or was that what your dog indicated?

hey everyone that didn’t think Gaudin could outpitch Mitre, I am here to remind you that I said he could, but let’s forget anyone ever said anything if he implodes upon his next start.

oh, 2-0 rays now. that’s cool.

1 out, 1 coaching visit

A wise man once wrote of Joba: “He may have been a good pitcher, but now he’s Bantha fodder.”

Now we can say “Joba to the pen” without him being branded the 8th inning guy.

Forget it, Joba sucks.

Howdy all. Just got in, catching up on the thread and getting the telly warmed up.

Please no Berman please no Berman please no Berman….

Joba strikes out the side…

Worst striking out the side inning of the season?

“In its belly you will find a new definition of pain and suffering…. as you have to watch joba chamberlain pitch over a number of starts.”

-C3PO

The evolution of bad Joba can be directly traced back to when he started wearing a hemp necklace.  What is it with those hemp necklaces?

Holy jumped up Friday. 32 pitches, 3 K’s - what inning is this ?

At this rate, who will pitch teh third ?

Callin’ for the James Beam early.

Yeah, I need a beer.  Someone suggest a nice brew I go out and pick up in a local CT establishment.

Who the hell is this babbler on ESPN ?

Teix seems to have a tendency to look at strike threes.

Cheapie, please, Alex.

First ball in play of the game turned into an out.

Dear Joba,

Baserunners are bad. Don’t do baserunners.

Thanks in advance.

Pardon my language, but I wish these announcers, the media, and every idiot would just shut the fuck up about Joba. We get it. Joba absolutely cannot be a good starter, and the Yankees are buffoons for 1) Keeping him in the rotation and 2) Inventing the Joba rules. We get it. Now shut the fuck up.

I’m pretty sure I just heard Steve Phillips say that no, the Yankees don’t need Joba in the bullpen. He even went so far as to expound upon the Yankees’ bullpen depth. Are there pigs flying outside?!

according to gameday, Joba has thrown a 90 mph fastball and a 89 mph slider. That’s kind of ridiculous. Was the first inning really as bad as it seems?

[33] That sound was Foleyed in by hackers. Never happened.

Any art history-informed readers out there?  Is the Rosie the Riveter figure below done in a faux-Socialist Realism style, or something else recognizable?

Hahahahahaha that’s right you hot dog!!

For what little it is worth, GD has Joba up to 95 several times in the 2nd.

Showboat ! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !

Upton tried to style the catch?

I once reached 3rd on an error. In little league. What the hell happened?

36 - where?

[41] Over-the-shoulder-basket-catch-FAIL

Can Joba go five today? Please?

do the guys on national TV just not remember the shoulder injury?  I swear, in all their half-assed theory-mongering, I’ve never once heard a mention of even a possible shoulder injury-loss of velocity connection….

[42] Oops, now it’s gone, was there for a while - some new game advert.

[36] Not seeing it. The ads must be personalized.

I don’t even get the Evony porn anymore. I’m getting “Cut down your belly fat” and “Personal Finance Tips” ads.

Was he as solid in the 2nd and 3rd as the Internets would indicate?

Molino made out?  WTF?  I can’t keep up with the oscillations.

Tying HR - engage?

Wasn’t part of the plan building Joba back up?

This is fucking retarded. I’m sorry.

oh, for fuck’s sake—how does it possibly benefit Joba yanking him after he settles down like that!?

Actually, I thought the plan was explicitly to limit him to 3-4 innings depending on pitch count regardless how well he was pitching.

Ace is in already? I have a feeling Joba is gonna come in WAY under the innings limit. I don’t get why they take him out when he’s starting to roll out there. How can he be expected to put together a good, 6-7 inning start when there’s always such a quick hook?

55, 57—you guys are aware which player she is?  the one in the shorts?

I guess the build him back up part will be like his last three starts of the season or something?  Maybe 65, 80, and 95 pitches?  Who knows?

Oudin is foxy.

Feh.  I’m rooting for her though.

Oudin is foxy.

What’s the age of consent in Maine, WJ?  Actually, having lived there for 4 years, I know that fair Melanie makes it with some to spare.

I’m a Wozniacki man m’self.

Upton’s general demeanor annoys me. Makes me happy he’s been God awful this year and his team’s already out of it.

I remember a time when it seemed that the age of consent was the mandatory retirement age for female tennis players.  And did you know that Andrea Jaeger became a nun?

Wozniacki is far prettier - and better, and more personable.
Oh, wait citizenship means that I have to mindlessly root for Americans, even if I don’t like them as much.  Roddick over Djokovic, for instance.

So, it seems like Joba had two good innings. That counts for something. Although, it does look like he got hit hard quite a few times in the first.

Listening to the announcers, Oudin is losing in a historically magnificent and admirable manner.

[62] Ozzy, I’m holdin’ hands with you. I officially don’t want Upton if he becomes available. We have enough of that with Cano, and at least he’s making genuine tough plays, not turning easy ones into hard ones.

Ehh, I like Cano, and will be all over Upton if he were available. He has talent.

The silence after points won by Wozniacki is hilarious.

Is Ace back to top form ??

Looks like Ace is back to his bad self again….

Djokovic is a classless douche.

If Oudin wins this game, the announcers are going to bark: “She gone!”

[68] Sam, I’m warming to Cano. I was very disappointed in him last year, but it looks like…I dunno, maybe he started accepting some coaching ?

I’m just not sure I wanna go through it again with Upton.

[64] really I kinda like Roddick. He’s one of the few athletes who will actually answer questions honestly. His press sessions are often pretty funny. Its really too bad he’s been buried underneath Federer and Nadal, because he is a good player in his own right.

Does BJ Upton even give a shit? I mean come on.

Upton HAS to be playing hurt, and Maddon has to know it—NO excuse for not benching him otherwise….

Roddick is awesome. He’s pretty good- big serve but kind of slow, this year he’s improved his conditioning- but his interviews are hilarious. Just a witty guy with a supermodel wife.

[75]
Djokovic does that, too.  And Roddick seems like a really cool guy, but it’s hard to deny that he’s just lacking something mentally.

[63] MC, saw that NYT article on Jaeger a few months ago.

Wozniacki is far prettier.

And speaking for myself, I like my women with a little more, uh, on top.  Though Oudine did look fetching with her hair down in the press conference earlier this week.

Couldn’t agree with you more, Pete, about the mindless rooting for fellow countrymen/women.  The whole America’s sweetheart thing could make you retch. When I was but a lad I remember feeling a little disloyal for preferring Romania’s Ecaterina Szabo to Mary Lou Retton.

[70] What? What, exactly, is he lacking? His interviews suggest that he’s sharper than 99% of athletes.

Djokovic is nowhere near as good as his interviews would lead you to believe, and he shows no respect for his opponents.

[68] I think Cano just had a bad year. With a guy like him, it could happen, he was really, really unlucky on balls in play. Coaching sure hasn’t hurt him, but I doubt it really had that much of an impact.

I actually see the same guy on the field in terms of effort. The only thing different are the results.

On the days when Roddick plays up to the level of the top players, he loses with monotonous predictability.  Even in Wimbledon, which looked like a different Roddick… but what’s happened since proves that it’s not.

And why is Djokovic worse than his ‘ads’? What does that even mean?
Djokovic is also largely potential, but being far closer to the beginning than to the end of his career, he has a CHANCE to become something bigger much than Roddick.  He hasn’t done it yet, of course.

In the meanwhile, it seems to me that NY tends to lose the majority of games in which they score this many runs.  Can that be changed, please?

Was yesterday a fluke, Nick ? Hmm ?

“why is Djokovic worse than his ‘ads’? “

Unless I have someone on ignore that I don’t know about, nobody has used this word but you.

Secondly, I asked what about Roddick was “lacking mentally” as you suggested (never got the answer, no longer care)- unless losing to Federer and Nadal is proof that he’s lacking something mentally? In which case…OK.

It’s one of those games?

What, exactly, is he lacking?

I’m guessing the suggestion is that he’s lacking mental toughness, as opposed to intellectual acumen.

[86]
Sorry, interviews, I think it was.

And was it Federer or Nadal disguised as Isner?  And before you dismiss that, do you really want me to go find the list of the numerous non-Federer, non-Nadal opponents in the numerous matches that Roddick really should have won… but didn’t?  Come on.

[88]  Pretty clearly, yes.  Unfortunately.

[87] Starting Rust Gardner and the catcher known for his defense doesn’t help.

Hey, the announcer just noticed that there’s another player on the court.  At the point before match point.

Nobody beats the Woz…

and so the American girl gets interviewed, yah nationalism, what a classy people we are!

She gone.
Makes me root for the other people so I don’t have to be embarrassed by the announcers.

Womens tennis… I’m ashamed of you motherfuckers.

Roll tape, everyone.

[96]
You’d rather ogle Pete Sampras?

89- OK, but I could make a list just as long for several players, doesn’t make them “lacking mentally.” Federer lost to the likes of Mardy Fish, an ancient Pete Sampras, Radek Stepanek, and James Blake, all within a few months…was he lacking something mentally? Or just off?

I actually think maybe you’re overrating Roddick. As I said earlier, he’s had a big serve but has been kind of slow and bulky.

Perhaps it’s just my tendency to shun assigning any kind of mental strength/weakness to people I don’t know. Like the people who called Cano lazy instead of acknowledging that sports are really difficult.

(Last point on Djokovic- he’s been called out repeatedly for “retiring” while behind, once insulted Roddick right after beating him, does imitations of players when they don’t appreciate it, also loses to players he has no business losing to, etc.)

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