Sunday, July 8, 2007
NY Times: Yankees Pin Their Hopes on Pitching and Patience
Chamberlain, Horne, Smith, Ian Kennedy, Jeff Marquez and Jason Jones lead a Trenton staff that is the nexus of the Yankees’ recent emphasis on developing pitching. In a dreary season for the major league team, the Trenton pitchers have been the organization’s highlight.
Every team knows the importance of pitching. But under General Manager Brian Cashman, the Yankees’ strategy of taking risks on amateur pitchers and exceeding industry standards for bonuses seems to be working. It suggests that the Yankees may not be down for long, and other teams have noticed.
“He recognized a few years ago the need to fortify his system and has taken advantage of every opportunity possible to infuse talent into it,” Cleveland Indians General Manager Mark Shapiro said.
“The system is now one of the stronger ones in the minor leagues, and at some point, as those players become major-league-ready, the Yankees will have the most deadly combination of depth of young talent combined with elite payroll resources at the major league level.”
When Cashman assumed greater authority over baseball operations in 2005, he wanted clearly defined roles for others in the department. With Damon Oppenheimer running the draft and Mark Newman overseeing the farm system, the Yankees have steadily raised their profile in the minors.
In 2004, Baseball America ranked the Yankees 27th in minor league talent. Before this season, they ranked seventh. While the system is thin in position players, Cashman is closely guarding his pitching depth as the trading deadline nears.
2007 may stink, but the future looks promising.
For some reason, and I know this is completely irrational, seeing that the Yankees won 12-0 today pissed me off. I still have a really bad taste in my mouth from Saturday’s game so I didn’t bother to watch today. Couldn’t they have scored 1 of those 12 freaking runs yesterday sometime between innings 3 and 12?
Nothing against Chien-Ming Wang BTW, who continues to succeed, defying not just a low K rate, but what seems to be a pretty nasty fingernail issue. Wang is awesome.
Comments
It was nice finally being able to see what Chamberlain has. His fastball appeared hittable at times, but his breaking stuff is just nasty. I can’t wait for him to develop even further.
Wang is awesome, and it was cool watching Chamberlain in the futures game today (although he looked a little nervous and didn’t have a great inning.) This article is spot on, I think. We’re basically all salivating over a rotation that could someday (2009?) be Wang/Hughes/Chamberlain/Stud Free Agent/________.
As for Yankees 2007, we’re 9 back in the loss column. We just took 3 out of 4 from the Twins and 2 out of 3 from an Angel team that has managed to make us look silly for 5 friggin years. The Sox are in a bit of a slide (relative to their entire record) and we’ve got a stretch coming up which has games with 5 of the worst teams in the league. Clemens, Wang - great. Matsui is getting hot. Phillips may be the piece we’ve been searching for at 1B (emphasis on may be). Hughes will be back to send Igawa back to ______ (Japan or an NL team hopefully.) Mo has been the usual Mo since April 30th. Abreu has hit the ball hard more often than not the last week or so. Cano, ARod and Melky are playing great defense. Mussina has figured things out a little bit and is fine as the 4th starter. And we should see Hughes, Karstens, Giambi, Mientkiewicz, maybe and Rasner in the 2nd half.
This team certainly has the talent to overcome 9 games in the loss column.
The one glaring problem I see, although people minimize it because of the number of PA’s and innings you’re talking about, is backup catcher. Nieves has proven to be absolutely worthless, and Posada is more likely to slow down offensively if Joe has to keep runnig him out there every single day. Perhaps Omir Santos can do better than Nieves. I have no idea. But Nieves isn’t even carrying his weight defensively, so there’s almost literally nothing to lose (except damaging a kid’s confidence by calling him up too early.)
And oh yea, 6 games left against Boston. Two series wins means we have to out play them by 7 in the loss column.
It’s nice to imagine the ability to redirect where the team will score runs… but c’mon, we hit against a bad pitcher, wen didn’t against a good one.
It happens.
That split in Wang’s finger that has gone under his nail is rough. I don’t know if he can avoid the DL.
So if we look 4 years down the road is this what we get (I know empirically its hard to do this as a Yankees fan)
1. Wang
2. Hughes
3. Chamberlain
4. Sanchez
5. Clippard
except damaging a kids confidence by calling him up too early
Santos is 26, so I think we’re beyond damaging his confidence. He’s at the point where he’s either going to be a useful player for the next few years, or he isn’t. Considering Nieves has given the team next to nothing, unless Cashman can pull off a trade in the next few weeks, I think now is the time to give Santos a try.
Deryck,
The nice thing about your list, is there are probably 3 or 4 other pitchers that could be swapped into the list. Certainly Kennedy, and perhaps Horne, Brackman, and others. If everything falls right and ALL the pitching prospects work out, that also means in the next couple of years the Yankees will have the bullets to trade for position-player talent to fill other gaps.
1. Wang
2. Hughes
3. Chamberlain
4. Sanchez
5. Clippard
I think Sanchez should/will be converted to a reliver to avoid injury. I think Horne, Bettances, and Kennedy all have a better shot with us than Clippard
Wang
Hughes
Chamberlain
Betances
Kennedy/Horne
Wang
Hughes
Chamberlain
Betances
Clemens!
Hughes
Chamberlain
Hughes
Santana
Hughes
All of you except Dave are forgetting about Kennedy. I think he’s going to be good. I’m positive he’ll end up being more useful than Sanchez.
I’m a little bit tired of hearing about Wang’s low K rate every single time people bring him up. It’s almost like how people have to bring up how short Eckstein is whenever they talk about him.
We get it, he has a K rate that is way lower than any other pitcher with his level of success. But his K rate is moving in the right direction, which tells me he’s not just doing the same thing over and over. He is consciously trying to improve. Instead of just resting on his outlier laurels.
I think Sanchez will end up as a reliever.
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