This place needs more pie charts and bar graphs.

I’m not totally sold since wind currents might still increase home runs to one part of the park.  Plus, without a full season of data, it is hard to make any conclusion just yet as to what is really responsible.

I read that the other day as well.  I feel the same way, AND also the fact that the old stadium is still there.  If it comes down, the wind patterns could change such that the NYS plays the same size as the old NYS, even if the dimensions aren’t the same.

Or not.  But I’d sure like to know before they contract someone to move the fences back and we end up with Citi field or worse.

I wouldn’t mind a citifield, at all.

Montero is a monster

what’s wrong with extra home runs though? It’s not like the park is biased against the home team.  The Yankees will be able to/need to get extra value out of left handed pull hitters, but that isn’t exactly new.

I wouldn’t mind a citifield, at all.

That’s one thing I don’t get about the stadium decision, they can field a team in which few ballparks can hold their offense down, yet they create a park that neutralizes in part the advantages of their hitters.

I guess their bet was that the pitching can equalize the other team, but that seems like a dicey proposition.

Oh well.

I wouldn’t mind a citifield, at all.

So far at least, I think it may be a little *too* pitcher friendly.  My personal preference is a park with a slight bias towards pitchers, but some characteristics that favor certain kinds of hitters.  Like lots of room in the gaps for speedy players to take advantage of (good fielders, triples), maybe some short fences down the lines.  Something like, oh I don’t know, old Yankee Stadium maybe?

Pitchers’ parks shorten the game, thus shortening the season, thus giving a higher % of innings to the team’s better pitchers.  If ALL a team cares about is wins and losses, a pitcher’s park (with perhaps a unique aspect like the Green Monster) would probably be the best way to go.

how does it shorten the season? I guess it might mean that starters stay in longer, but that is going to cut both ways.

They just looked at HR/BIA by direction hit for right handed and left handed batters.  Doesn’t MLB.com actually have the location of where the balls landed?  That seems like a better way to figure out how many balls landed in the 2-9 foot areas that would have been in play in the old stadium. 

I thought I saw something like that done before but I can’t find it now.

http://www.hittrackeronline.com/ has the information, but to get what you want would require work.  I think I remember seeing it done somewhere too.

“the location of where the balls landed?”

I saw such a study referred to; it said some playable balls are made HR by the new stadium to right but a similar if smaller number of HR are made playable elsewhere.

I saw such a study referred to; it said some playable balls are made HR by the new stadium to right but a similar if smaller number of HR are made playable elsewhere.

This was mentioned in the comments on Fangraphs…something like 12 HR in the new park wouldn’t have left the old park, though 7 balls in play in the new park would have been HR in OYS.

Here’s an image of all the NYS HR this year.

The study was also found on hittrackeronline.com, though I can’t seem to find it.  Didn’t look particularly hard, though. 

Montero is indeed a monster.  September call-up?  What is his position if not C or 1B? 

As far as The Stadium goes, wouldn’t a pitchers park also give a higher % of the innings to the other team’s better pitchers thus negating the benefit.  I think a quirk such as a Lefty-haven can benefit the home team if they build around it.  Look at Boston- they have a ridiculous band-box that players can use to turn FOs into 2B’s and HR’s.  It seems to benefit them at home.  Why shouldn’t the Yanks stack their lineup with LHs, RHs who go opposite field, and LHP to form a big home-field advantage?  Of course that may not be possible for another 10 years or so since out best hitter is RH.

Jeter and A-Rod are the only righties in the Yanks lineup, and their starting rotation is 40% left-handed. And just this last off-season they switched from two lefties to two switch-hitters going from Giambi/Abreu to Tex/Swisher.  I’d say the FO is conscious of the “stack the lineup with lefties” strategy.

[14] Fenway is far from a “band-box”.

How many balls are off the wall in left center that would be out in many parks? And RF, outside of that little corner, is huge, as is CF.

Of course RF was even bigger before they brought in the fences for Ted Williams. Didn’t bother the Babe though, when he came to town.

[16] But how many cans of corn in LF are doubles & HRs in Fenway vs. other parks? True, not a “band-box”, but those engineers had no idea what they were doing in LF (chuckle).

Anyway, SIGN CHAPMAN!!!

Fenyway has a park factor of 107-108 the last three years, compared to a park factor for Coors of ... 107-108.

DaPuj, I’ve had it up to here with your “facts”.

I think Don’s equating “band-box” with home-run-happy park, which Fenway is not, IIRC.  But it sure gives up a lot of Monstah BS.

DaPuj, I’ve had it up to here with your “facts”.

Where I come from, we have a word for people like DaPuj: witches.  And we burn ‘em.  Yes we do.

What if I told you I don’t float?

We’ll let God sort that one out.

“God will recognize his own” is the way I recall it (“Dieu reconnaîtra les siens”).