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Monday, January 14, 2008

ESPN: Source: Yankees pull trade offer for Santana

For the second time this offseason, the Yankees have pulled their Phil Hughes-centered trade offer for Johan Santana off the table.

The Yankees, then, will not restart trade talks with the Twins unless Hank Steinbrenner has another change of heart, a baseball official with knowledge of the talks told 1050 ESPN Radio’s Andrew Marchand.

The Yankees’ desire Monday to turn their attention away from the two-time Cy Young winner leaves Boston and the New York Mets as Minnesota’s trade partners, the official told Marchand.

“We’re not desperate, so we’re not going to chase anything,” Steinbrenner told the New York Daily News in early January.

Sweet.  We won’t have to hear any more Santana speculation.  And yes, I’m being sarcastic.

--Posted at 3:49 pm by SG / 15 Comments | - (887)

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Off subject but do any of you know if the Scranton 2008 schedule includes a Dwight Shrute bobblehead night?

Haha that would be hilarious.  Another off subject, I’m going to order the grey Scranton hat.  Does anyone know if the minor league sizes run the same as major league?

Oh, and I really hope nobody gets Santana.  Actually, I wouldn’t mind the Mets.

Hal + Cashman > Hank

Hal + Cashman > Hank

I guess this would certainly be evidence of that.

I still don’t understand Hank. I can’t knock his baseball moves thus far, or at least his not getting in the way of Cashman making the right baseball moves thus far, but what purpose does broadcasting this stuff every day serve? If anything, you want the Red Sox willing to think that you’ll pull the trigger so they don’t have the opportunity to low ball Minnesota. The Yankees win here if Santana becomes a free agent in 2008, and push if the Mets get him and lock him up. They lose if they trade too much for him and they lose if the Red Sox trade for him at all (even if they trade a little too much, they’d be an order of magnitude better for the foreseeable future.) Still, I’m sure any pulled offer comes with a text message from Cashman to contact him before Santana is moved, to at least give him the chance to match the offer.

what purpose does broadcasting this stuff every day serve?

In fairness, Hank’s not broadcasting anything this time.  The quotes in the story are all recycled.  The “news”, such as it is, come from “a baseball official with knowledge of the talks” saying something that has probably been true since the winter meetings—the Yanks aren’t going to call the Twins to ask about Santana any more, but they still might listen if the Twins call them.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AlEoVVUayl.hqM6Tzab2E8wRvLYF?slug=ap-yankees-santana&prov=ap&type=lgns

TAMPA, Fla. (AP)—New York Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner has not closed the door on a trade for Minnesota Twins left-hander Johan Santana.

“It’s still in the deciding process,” Steinbrenner said Monday night outside Legends Field at the Yankees’ spring training complex. “We’re still discussing it. There’s still a little talk back and forth.”

...

Steinbrenner said reports that the Yankees recently withdrew a formal offer to the Twins are not true.

“There wasn’t an official offer anyway. You can’t withdraw something that wasn’t there,” Steinbrenner said. “There was no official offer on the table at this time.”

Hank’s kind of schizo.

I’m not as down as others on Hank… yet.

He hasn’t done anything stupid. all the talks isn’t like that he just called a press conference or something. reporters simply go to him and he gives them a answer. i don’t really see a problem with that. he certinaly isn’t doing old Geroge’s call reporter himself thing

Actually, Hank has been pretty consistent on this since the winter meetings.  It’s the coverage of Hank that has been psychotic.

Also from yup’s link:

The Yankees plan to have an innings-pitched limit for another promising young pitcher, Joba Chamberlain, this season.

Steinbrenner said one option is to have Chamberlain start the season in the bullpen, when teams normally needed just four starters, and then join the rotation. The decision will be made by manager Joe Girardi and pitching coach Dave Eiland.

This is becoming a pet peeve of mine— the Yankees get the day after opening day off, and then play 19 straight days and 32 games in 33 days.  They’ll need a fifth starter no later than their sixth game of the season, and no fewer than four times in the month of April.  Of course, I put this on the writers, not the FO.  I assume that Cashman, Girardi, Eiland, and even Hank Steinbrenner have looked at the schedule.

Nope, they’re just winging it.

My problem with Hank is that I don’t see what is to be gained by sharing every thought or feeling about a possible Santana trade with the media.

Couldn’t Hank simply say: “No comment” or “Nothing new to report” ?

As for whether or not the trade will be completed, I’m becoming more optimistic because of Hal’s apparent prudence.

It may be a bit counter-intuitive, but couldn’t the Yankees pulling out of the talks perhaps KEEP the Red Sox from making a deal?

If the Yankees are out of it, the Red Sox are unlikely to give the Twins any better offer than what is already on the table, and if that’s the case, the Twins do not seem inclined to TAKE the Red Sox’s current offer, so they very well may just say “screw it,” and wait until later in the season to deal Santana.

Which would be in the Yankees’ best interest.

—This is becoming a pet peeve of mine— the Yankees get the day after opening day off, and then play 19 straight days and 32 games in 33 days.  They’ll need a fifth starter no later than their sixth game of the season, and no fewer than four times in the month of April.  Of course, I put this on the writers, not the FO.  I assume that Cashman, Girardi, Eiland, and even Hank Steinbrenner have looked at the schedule.—

i agree for the most part, but to play devil’s advocate, isn’t it likely that a game or two will get rained out in april?

i agree for the most part, but to play devil’s advocate, isn’t it likely that a game or two will get rained out in april?

So, when the Yanks had to run Clippard and Wright and Karstens and Rasner out there last April, they should have just said, “Hey, we got a rainout coming, don’t we?”  You can pray for rain, but you can’t plan on it.

Actually, Hank has been pretty consistent on this since the winter meetings.  It’s the coverage of Hank that has been psychotic.

this is true.  just read the article linked above by SG:

The Yankees, then, will not restart trade talks with the Twins unless Hank Steinbrenner has another change of heart, a baseball official with knowledge of the talks told 1050 ESPN Radio’s Andrew Marchand.

so, in this paragraph, they are citing a “baseball official”.

then in this paragraph, we see:

“We’re not desperate, so we’re not going to chase anything,” Steinbrenner told the New York Daily News in early January.

do you see how this article made it seem like there was a NEW quote from Hank?  there wasn’t. 

this is largely why everyone thinks Hanks talks too much.

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