Thursday, October 8, 2009
2009 ALDS Preview: Satan’s East Coast Team vs. Satan’s West Coast Team
Here’s a quick look at the Twins’ possible opponents for the next round…
Red SoxThe plucky underdogs from New England finished with the third-best record in the American League and took the wild card by eight games. Let's see how they look as presently constituted.
Although the Yankees ended up finishing eight games ahead of Boston, the actual difference between the two teams is more than likely smaller than that. Here's how their position players project for the ALDS, using my guess at the postseason roster (which isn't finalized yet).
| Lineup | Pos | PA | AVG | OBP | SLG | pwOBA | 09wOBA | Diff | BR | Outs | dRS |
| jacoby ellsbury | cf | 23 | .300 | .353 | .420 | .341 | .336 | -.005 | 3 | 15 | -10 |
| dustin pedroia | 2b | 22 | .305 | .370 | .459 | .362 | .358 | -.004 | 3 | 14 | 8 |
| victor martinez | c | 22 | .301 | .376 | .458 | .366 | .398 | .032 | 3 | 14 | 1 |
| kevin youkilis | 1b | 21 | .294 | .394 | .510 | .392 | .414 | .021 | 3 | 13 | 4 |
| david ortiz | dh | 21 | .270 | .378 | .539 | .391 | .342 | -.049 | 4 | 13 | 0 |
| jason bay | lf | 20 | .274 | .377 | .517 | .384 | .394 | .009 | 3 | 12 | -14 |
| j.d. drew | rf | 19 | .276 | .389 | .493 | .383 | .394 | .011 | 3 | 12 | 4 |
| mike lowell | 3b | 19 | .281 | .336 | .465 | .345 | .348 | .003 | 3 | 13 | -1 |
| alex gonzalez | ss | 10 | .270 | .317 | .417 | .319 | .324 | .005 | 1 | 7 | 5 |
| casey kotchman | 1b | 10 | .279 | .350 | .427 | .342 | .339 | -.003 | 1 | 7 | 7 |
| rocco baldelli | rf | 4 | .269 | .327 | .475 | .344 | .322 | -.022 | 1 | 3 | -1 |
| jason varitek | c | 2 | .230 | .331 | .396 | .324 | .311 | -.013 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
| jed lowrie | ss | 2 | .253 | .329 | .407 | .324 | .211 | -.112 | 0 | 1 | 14 |
| nick green | ss | 1 | .253 | .312 | .409 | .314 | .295 | -.019 | 0 | 1 | 2 |
| total | 196 | .286 | .366 | .475 | 29 | 124 | 0 |
PA: Estimated plate appearances for the series, assuming it goes the distance.
pwOBA: projected weighted on-base average, a rate version of linear weights
09wOBA: 2009 actual wOBA
Diff: 09wOBA minus pwOBA. As a rough rule of thumb, a difference of .010 in wOBA is worth about five runs over 600 PAs.
BR: Estimated batting runs for the series using linear weights for estimated PA
Outs: Estimated outs for the series based on revised projection and estimated PA
dRS: Defensive projection over 150 games using an average of zone rating and UZR for non-catchers, and for 120 games using a system similar to the one described here for catchers.
Keep in mind that these projections are for Fenway, which boosts run-scoring even more than DNYS. So even though the raw numbers look better than any other team's, once you adjust for park they go down a little. Still, this is a good offensive team, especially if they are starting Victor Martinez at catcher. In a neutral environment they're probably a little worse than the Yankees, but better than any other team in the postseason.
I know we like to mock the media's fascination with the Red Sox, but they deserve credit for how they've put their team together. In Dustin Pedroia and Kevin Youkilis they have two players among the best at their positions in baseball that they've drafted and developed themselves, and while additional farm product Jacoby Ellsbury is overrated because of his speed, he's a pretty valuable player on offense. The only player on offense that is below average is probably Alex Gonzalez, although we can probably add Jason "C" Varitek if he gets any starts.
So yeah, they can hit. What about the defense? Funny you should ask. The Red Sox weren't a very good defensive team this year if you go by the numbers (-17 UZR, -36 ZR). The ZR number is "not" adjusted for Fenway's disgraceful LF wall, the normal effect of that is around 15 runs, so they're probably closer to that -17 UZR number.
Jason Bay is pretty bad in LF, and it's not just a Fenway thing. His numbers in Pittsburgh since a knee injury a few years ago were also not that good. Jacoby Ellsbury "looks" good, and he had decent numbers before this year, but for whatever reason his numbers aren't so good this year. I'd probably split the difference with him. He's probably not as good as Red Sox fans think, but he's also probably not as bad as this year's numbers indicate. Pedroia, Youkilis, Alex Gonzalez and J.D. Drew all probably classify as good to great defensively. Mike Lowell used to be a good defender, but his mobility has been hampered by his hip injury. Overall, they were a below average defense in 2009 but they project around average now.
The pitching staff of the Red Sox gets a lot of attention, as well they should with somewhere in the order of 12 different aces. Here's how they look.
| Pitcher | Role | IP | H | HR | BB | K | pRA | pERA | pFIP | 09ERA | 09FIP | sIP | sR |
| jon lester | SP1 | 182 | 184 | 18 | 66 | 154 | 4.22 | 4.06 | 3.88 | 3.41 | 3.21 | 12 | 5.6 |
| josh beckett | SP2 | 198 | 190 | 23 | 52 | 178 | 4.35 | 4.08 | 3.70 | 3.86 | 3.63 | 6 | 2.9 |
| clay buchholz | SP3 | 115 | 124 | 14 | 39 | 87 | 5.08 | 4.77 | 4.31 | 4.21 | 4.73 | 6 | 3.4 |
| daisuke matsuzaka | SP4 | 143 | 134 | 16 | 70 | 128 | 4.48 | 4.33 | 4.28 | 5.77 | 5.09 | 5 | 2.5 |
| jonathan papelbon | CL | 65 | 50 | 5 | 18 | 73 | 2.58 | 2.26 | 2.72 | 1.85 | 2.98 | 3 | 0.9 |
| billy wagner | SU | 46 | 34 | 4 | 14 | 54 | 3.37 | 2.71 | 2.94 | 1.97 | 2.47 | 3 | 1.1 |
| daniel bard | SU | 77 | 69 | 6 | 32 | 70 | 4.55 | 4.19 | 3.60 | 3.65 | 3.30 | 3 | 1.5 |
| hideki okajima | MR | 65 | 55 | 7 | 22 | 56 | 3.30 | 3.25 | 3.89 | 3.39 | 4.20 | 3 | 1.1 |
| takashi saito | MR | 60 | 50 | 4 | 23 | 62 | 2.79 | 2.63 | 3.18 | 2.42 | 4.08 | 2 | 0.6 |
| ramon ramirez | MR | 83 | 94 | 15 | 31 | 61 | 6.10 | 5.69 | 5.25 | 2.84 | 4.39 | 1 | 0.7 |
| paul byrd | MR | 134 | 159 | 20 | 31 | 64 | 5.41 | 4.93 | 4.87 | 5.82 | 5.05 | 1 | 0.6 |
| manny delcarmen | LR | 68 | 67 | 5 | 31 | 55 | 4.50 | 4.16 | 3.93 | 4.52 | 4.52 | 0 | 0.0 |
| Total | 45 | 43 | 5 | 16 | 40 | 4.18 | 3.92 | 3.82 | 20.9 |
pRA: Projected runs allowed per nine innings
pERA: Projected earned runs allowed per nine innings
pFIP: Projected Fielding independent pitching
sIP: Estimated innings in the series
sR: Estimated runs allowed in the series based on revised projection and sIP
The Red Sox haven't officially announced a game 4 starter so I put Matsuzaka in there. If they are down 2-1 I could see them going back to Lester.
Although Josh Beckett projects slightly better, Lester is probably the best Red Sox starter. His projection underrates him because it still includes data from when he was recovering from cancer. If I were to go with my gut, I'd knock about 0.50 off his ERA and FIP, but I am not going to start making manual adjustments to my projections because I want to be as objective as possible. But yeah, figure Lester is better than his projection, and probably one of the top five starters in the postseason.
Beckett has a good postseason resume and generally has pretty good peripherals, but he's struggled some with the long ball this year. Whether it was a HR/FB fluke (12.8% in 2009, compared to 10.6% career) or a symptom of some back problems he's supposedly been having is probably the key question. Still, you'd be hard pressed to find a #2 starter who is as likely to dominate as Beckett.
Clay Buchholz has been hyped for a few years now and had shown both promise and awfulness, but he pitched pretty well this year for both Pawtucket and eventually Boston. He's already exceed his previous high for innings pitched in a season this year by about 40 innings so he may be starting to hit the wall as evidenced by his last two starts (8 IP, 13 H, 13 R, 6 HR, 3 BB and 10 K). It could also just be a blip.
Matsuzaka had a rough year after a very good (if somewhat lucky) 2008. He pitched well upon his return from the DL over his last four starts, with a 2.22 ERA and 4.23 FIP, but it's pretty tough to know what the Sox will get from him.
The Sox bullpen is probably the best one in the postseason. Their top five relievers have a collective projected ERA of 3.46 and the highest projected K rate of any of the teams at 8.77.
Overall, this roster and distribution of playing time has the best strikeout rate of all the postseason teams at 8.01 per 9. Their projected walk rate is 3.15 per nine, which is worse than all other teams but the Rockies and Dodgers. HR rate of 0.93 per nine is essentially middle of the pack.
In summary, here's what all that means.
| #games | 5 |
| home games | 2 |
| #outs | 125 |
| offense | 29.2 |
| pitching | 20.8 |
| defense | 0.0 |
| wpct | .656 |
| 162 gm equiv | 106-56 |
#outs: 27 outs times # of games if the series goes the distance.
offense: Total BR for the series using # of outs
pitching: Total runs allowed by the pitching and defense for the series
defense: Estimated impact of defense over series
wpct: Estimated winning percentage for the team based on these playing time estimates and adjusted for home field advantage using the offense, pitching and defense plugged into Pythagenpat
162 gm equiv: wpct translated to a 162 game season
As much as it pains me to say it, the Red Sox are at the very least the second best team in the postseason if you penalize the Cardinals for playing in a weaker league. The difference in winning percentage between them and the Yankees is essentially due to home field advantage.
So how about their opposition?
Angels
A lot of analysts are fond of saying the Angels are an 86-90 win team who got lucky and exceeded their Pythagorean record this year. Maybe that's at least somewhat true, but it is irrelevant in the context of this series. Let's see what the team that's going to be playing Boston actually looks like.
| Lineup | Pos | PA | AVG | OBP | SLG | pwOBA | 09wOBA | Diff | BR | Outs | dRS |
| chone figgins | 3b | 23 | .288 | .371 | .381 | .340 | .354 | .015 | 3 | 14 | 9 |
| bobby abreu | rf | 22 | .284 | .379 | .440 | .362 | .366 | .004 | 3 | 14 | -12 |
| torii hunter | cf | 22 | .285 | .349 | .492 | .362 | .375 | .013 | 3 | 14 | -3 |
| vladimir guerrero | dh | 21 | .304 | .365 | .511 | .376 | .344 | -.033 | 3 | 13 | 0 |
| juan rivera | lf | 21 | .275 | .320 | .462 | .336 | .348 | .012 | 3 | 14 | 8 |
| kendry morales | 1b | 20 | .296 | .341 | .505 | .369 | .388 | .019 | 3 | 13 | 5 |
| maicer izturis | 2b | 19 | .281 | .343 | .401 | .329 | .346 | .017 | 2 | 12 | 4 |
| mike napoli | c | 19 | .259 | .355 | .499 | .367 | .362 | -.005 | 3 | 12 | -6 |
| erick aybar | ss | 10 | .281 | .317 | .388 | .308 | .334 | .025 | 1 | 7 | 5 |
| howie kendrick | 2b | 10 | .297 | .332 | .446 | .337 | .337 | .000 | 1 | 7 | 5 |
| gary matthews jr. | lf | 4 | .257 | .330 | .401 | .323 | .315 | -.008 | 0 | 3 | -2 |
| reggie willits | lf | 2 | .261 | .351 | .322 | .310 | .213 | -.097 | 0 | 1 | 5 |
| jeff mathis | c | 2 | .213 | .276 | .334 | .270 | .264 | -.006 | 0 | 1 | -4 |
| robb quinlan | lf | 1 | .263 | .310 | .374 | .303 | .271 | -.031 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| total | 196 | .284 | .349 | .453 | 27 | 128 | 0 |
The Angels were third in baseball in team wOBA at .352 (behind the Yankees at .366 and the Red Sox at .352). They were second in runs scored at 883 (behind the Yankees at 915) although that's partially due to a better performance with runners on base. Their context-neutral runs scored would have been around 50 runs less.
It starts at the top with Chone Figgins, who's a very good overall player. In fact, if you factor in defense and baserunning, he was probably the Angels' most valuable player at around 5.7 WAR despite not having much power. Although noted for his defensive versatility, he's essentially settled in at third base and has shown a very good glove, projected around +9 over a full season.
Our old friend Bobby Abreu had a good year offensively as well, slightly better than he'd be expected to do going forward. He gives the Angels a good OBP at the top of the lineup and has been credited with helping the Angels be a little more patient overall as a team. The Angels saw 3.88 pitches per PA in 2009 compared to 3.65 per PA in 2008, which translates to about 9 extra pitches per game. Defensively, Abreu was better than 2008 with the Yanks, but still bad, and he projects pretty bad going forward.
Torii Hunter had a decent year as well on both sides of the ball, although his projection would be for him to do a little worse in both areas.
Let's consider a player who's probably heading to the Hall of Fame. This player bats cleanup for a very good team and has been an MVP. In the postseason, this player has hit .240/.337/.293 in the postseason in his career. Yet, Chip Caray doesn't seem to feel the need to continually recite those stats. That's what Vlad Guerrero has done in the postseason in his career. It doesn't mean he's a bad postseason player or is unclutch, it just means that he's had 86 bad PAs. Just like it means for another former MVP who's probably heading to the Hall of Fame as well. Guerrero's projection may look a little generous given his 2009 performance, but he did hit .300/.347/.498 after returning from the DL on August 4th.
Juan Rivera and Kendry Morales both had solid years as well. Maicer Izturis is really more of a glove man, although he does project to get on base at a better than league average clip. Mike Napoli's low batting average is probably the reason he doesn't get a lot of credit for being one of the better hitting catchers in baseball, but he is. Erick Aybar's another mostly glove guy, and Howie Kendrick should also get some of the playing time at 2B.
Defensively, you have Figgins, Rivera, Morales, Izturis, Aybar and Kendrick as projected plusses, Hunter a little below average, and then Abreu and Napoli as less than great defenders.
And for the pitching...
| Pitcher | Role | IP | H | HR | BB | K | pRA | pERA | pFIP | 09ERA | 09FIP | sIP | sR |
| john lackey | SP1 | 192 | 191 | 20 | 55 | 153 | 4.23 | 3.82 | 3.78 | 3.83 | 3.68 | 12 | 5.6 |
| jered weaver | SP2 | 185 | 180 | 23 | 57 | 149 | 4.13 | 3.94 | 4.10 | 3.75 | 4.09 | 6 | 2.8 |
| scott kazmir | SP3 | 128 | 115 | 15 | 50 | 128 | 3.94 | 3.57 | 3.87 | 1.74 | 2.95 | 6 | 2.6 |
| joe saunders | SP4 | 192 | 211 | 25 | 62 | 105 | 4.94 | 4.61 | 4.76 | 4.60 | 5.17 | 5 | 2.7 |
| brian fuentes | CL | 62 | 53 | 5 | 22 | 58 | 3.94 | 3.66 | 3.52 | 3.93 | 4.25 | 3 | 1.3 |
| ervin santana | SU | 72 | 65 | 7 | 24 | 68 | 3.91 | 3.66 | 3.52 | 5.03 | 4.91 | 3 | 1.3 |
| darren oliver | SU | 70 | 66 | 7 | 20 | 53 | 3.74 | 3.54 | 3.77 | 2.71 | 3.21 | 3 | 1.2 |
| jason bulger | MR | 59 | 48 | 4 | 24 | 66 | 3.18 | 3.10 | 2.97 | 3.56 | 3.88 | 3 | 1.1 |
| kevin jepsen | MR | 54 | 55 | 3 | 20 | 44 | 4.40 | 4.08 | 3.26 | 4.94 | 2.96 | 2 | 1.0 |
| matt palmer | MR | 134 | 156 | 16 | 39 | 72 | 5.65 | 5.35 | 4.51 | 3.93 | 4.71 | 1 | 0.6 |
| jose arredondo | MR | 68 | 74 | 9 | 26 | 52 | 5.44 | 5.15 | 4.47 | 6.00 | 4.38 | 1 | 0.6 |
| sean o'sullivan | LR | 119 | 154 | 16 | 21 | 54 | 6.84 | 6.45 | 4.51 | 5.92 | 6.02 | 0 | 0.0 |
| Total | 45 | 43 | 5 | 15 | 37 | 4.18 | 3.88 | 3.86 | 20.9 |
Lackey gets the nod in Game 1, with Weaver in Game 2 and Kazmir in Game 3. It looks like Ervin Santana will be in the bullpen, so I gave the Game 4 start to Joe Saunders.
Lackey's one of the better pitchers in the league, I had him at 19th in the league in runs saved above replacement level, despite missing 5-6 starts. It could be his last hurrah as an Angel, as he's likely to be the best free agent starting pitcher available in 2010.
Jered Weaver backs up Lackey and he's also a good starter, probably on par with A.J. Burnett as a #2. Although Kazmir's overall 2009 looks ugly, he pitched very well for the Angels after being acquired from Tampa Bay. Looking at all the third starters in the postseason, Kazmir projects better than any of them.
Joe Saunders kind of reminds me of Andy Pettitte. He's going to give up hits and runs, but he'll pitch well enough to keep the Angels in the game most of the time.
The bullpen is going to be interesting to watch. The Angels have almost always had one of the better bullpens in baseball since Mike Scioscia took over, but that's probably not true this year. Brian Fuentes isn't awful, but he's a little shaky and probably not someone you want to see pitching when trying to save a one run lead in Fenway.
The wild card is Ervin Santana. The projection above has been converted to a relief equivalent, but he's got great stuff and could be the Angels' equivalent of Phil Hughes the reliever in the postseason.
The rest of the bullpen isn't too bad, with Darren Oliver, Jason Bulger and Kevin Jepsen around.
So how good are the Angels?
| #games | 5 |
| home games | 3 |
| #outs | 125 |
| offense | 27.0 |
| pitching | 20.9 |
| defense | 0.3 |
| wpct | .631 |
| 162 gm equiv | 102-60 |
They're maybe a hair worse than the Yankees and Boston. So if someone tells you they're an 86 win team that got lucky, tell that person they are wrong.
So you have the equivalent of a 102 win team hosting the equivalent of a 106 win team. What happens if they play each other 10,000 times?
Angels 40.8%
Red Sox: 53.1%
Angels: 46.9%
I don't really care who wins, because I think the Yankees can beat either team and lose to either team, so I'm just going to root for a five game series where each game goes 20 innings.
Comments
Are you somehow suggesting that the Sox should be favored because they’re the better team right now and not because they’ve beaten the Angels in the past?
Silly, I know.
Dick Gregory once said during the bad old days of the South that he had watched the Mississippi/Mississippi State football game and rooted for the commercials.
That said only one team resides in hell, the other more like purgatory and I’m rooting for the Halos because I think they will be easier and as much of a pleasure to beat whereas losing to Satan’s spawns would feel way worse.
Here’s a quick look at the Twins’ possible opponents for the next round…
I see what you did there…
So let me get this straight. The high-quality analysis you put up here is completely uncompensated. The analysis found at ESPN etc is highly paid for. Does that make sense? That does not make sense.
[4] good point. How has SG not been stolen away from us by people with big pockets?
[5] They are not interested in analysis based on facts.
[5] Because he is a man of honor and courage.
[6] That too.
[7] He’s going to release a statement about how he wants loves RLYW and can’t imagine playing anywhere else. Then in the offseason he’s going to sign a huge contract and go play for the Yankees.
I was hoping to keep this quiet, but I’m leaving the RLYW after this postseason and going to write for Boston Dirt Dogs.
Let’s consider a player who’s probably heading to the Hall of Fame. This player bats cleanup for a very good team and has been an MVP. In the postseason, this player has hit .240/.337/.293 in the postseason in his career. Yet, Chip Caray doesn’t seem to feel the need to continually recite those stats. That’s what Vlad Guerrero has done in the postseason in his career. It doesn’t mean he’s a bad postseason player or is unclutch, it just means that he’s had 86 bad PAs. Just like it means for another former MVP who’s probably heading to the Hall of Fame as well.
Outstanding.
Red Sox 59.2%
Angels 40.8%
I’m surprised it’s not a little bit closer, considering that they’re only 2-3% different over 162 and the “weaker” team has HFA.
[9] that was ugly. You get the point though.
Outstanding.
Even though I said “In the postseason, this player has hit .240/.337/.293 in the postseason”?
If they pay him enough will he be on Baseball Tonight saying things like Ellsbury is batting .357 over the last 11 games and .411 with RISP or will he eschew the big bucks if intellectual dishonesty is the price?
I’m surprised it’s not a little bit closer, considering that they’re only 2-3% different over 162 and the “weaker” team has HFA.
Yeah, that’s actually wrong. I had the numbers from an older version of the Angels depth chart I worked up. Re-running it now.
[14] He’ll have to leave his mom’s basement and get some prescription strength acne cream though. Maybe even have to give up the weekly LAN parties.
How has SG not been stolen away from us by people with big pockets?
He refused to be a fool dancing on the strings held by all of those big shots.
Red Sox: %
Angels: %
So… what you’re saying is, there’s a chance?
[13] OK. Let’s go with, “needs a bit of editing, but otherwise, outstanding.”
Best analysis I’ve seen yet, and I’ve been looking. SI’s #1 factor was that the Sox are in the Angels’ dome because of the past series. [loud buzzing sound] thanks for playing.
One note: Daniel Bard has fallen off some lately, about a 6 ERA for his last 20 innings or something. Might also be hitting the wall. Manny Delcarmen suffered minor injuries in a car accident—because his Hummer needs three football fields to go from 60 to 0. Anyway, he’s out for now.
Comments on the season win differential between NYY and RS? I would have thought the Yankees have improved more over the year, but I guess having a nominally good Dice-K vs not having a good CMW is significant. Did the Yankees win a lot of 1-run games while the RS lost more than expected or something?
Yanks were 22-16 in one-run games; Sox 22-17.
Estimated strength of schedule was surely nearly the same.
[5] They haven’t been able to locate SG, his mom, or her basement.
If the Angels don’t win tonight, I can’t see them winning the series.
I was hoping to keep this quiet, but I’m leaving the RLYW after this postseason and going to write for Boston Dirt Dogs.
This is unbelievably outstanding. Jonathan should forward this sentiment to Abraham.
Manny Delcarmen suffered minor injuries in a car accident—because his Hummer needs three football fields to go from 60 to 0. Anyway, he’s out for now.
Yeah, I listed him there but didn’t give him any innings.
Comments on the season win differential between NYY and RS?
As far as run differential as it translates to expected winning percentage using Pythagenpat:
Yanks: .594, 96 wins
Red Sox: .581, 94 wins
As for why the Yankees exceeded Pythagenpat by 7 wins, they essentially did the same as Boston in one run games (22-16 vs. 22-17), so that’s not really it. I think one thing you’re seeing is the effect of something I’d call ‘concentrated suck’. For example, the game where Wang and Claggett combined to give up something like 18 runs in 4 innings probably counts as two losses on virtual paper, even though it was really only one.
The Red Sox essentially swapped out Varitek for Victor Martinez, which is something like a 3 win upgrade over a full season I think. They also removed Julio Lugo for Alex Gonzalez which is another small upgrade. Gone are Brad Penny, John Smoltz and Billy Traber, all of whom were worse than replacement level, which makes the Red Sox better as well.
The Yanks had better health in the pitching staff too I think, with three starters at 230, 207, and 195 IP. After Lester and Beckett, Boston’s next highest IP total was 131 by Penny. That advantage goes away when re-projecting going forward, especially if you add back a more effective Matsuzaka.
Eyeballing the projections here, it looks like CAIRO is giving the Red Sox boosts for Ellsbury, Pedroia and Ortiz as far as their projections compared to how they actually did in 2009, which also narrows the gap between the two teams going forward compared to the disparity in the 2009 regular season. I think CAIRO didn’t see any of the Yankees playing better than they had in 2009, although I’d need to go back and check.
KLaw is the best:
MARTIN (MALVERN,PA)
NO ONE IN ESPN PICKED THE PHILLIES IN THE WORLD SERIES BARELY TO EVEN GET TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIEs. ID HAVE TO SAY THEY LOOKED THE BEST FROM EVERYONE YESTERDAY. THOUGHTS
Klaw (1:10 PM)
I PICKED THEM TO WIN THE NL PENNANT AND REALLY YOU SHOULD TRY TO FIND YOUR CAPS LOCK KEY IT’S NOT HARD IT’S ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR KEYBOARD AND CONVENIENTLY SAYS “CAPS LOCK” IF YOU’RE STILL CONFUSED
klaw has more patience than I would
I’d add
COLE HAMELS IS GETTING SHELLED TODAY, RAISING SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PHILLIES’ ABILITY TO GET OUT OF THE NLDS.
The Red Sox essentially swapped out Varitek for Victor Martinez, which is something like a 3 win upgrade over a full season I think. They also removed Julio Lugo for Alex Gonzalez which is another small upgrade. Gone are Brad Penny, John Smoltz and Billy Traber, all of whom were worse than replacement level, which makes the Red Sox better as well.
And yet the early, flawed version of the Sox went 8-0 against the Yankees, while the improved version was 1-10. Could intangibles be at work here? cuz these aren’t tiny sample sizes.
What I don’t understand is why the ‘s’ in “SERIEs” is lowercase. Did he hit the shift-key for that?
Really, did Chase Utley just try to bunt down 4? Chase Utley?
[30] They are tiny sample sizes. 11 games? Seriously?
[30] No punctuation FAIL.
And yes, 10 games is a tiny sample. Just as the first 8 was. Or even the last 4 was in 200…
Wait, that never happened.
Two Red Sox fans are going to get into an argument on a Yankee fan site? Cool.
If 8 = tiny SS and 11 = tiny SS, then what does 8 + 11 = 19 = ?
They are tiny sample sizes. 11 games? Seriously?
For player data, of course. But do we take stats so seriously that we contend we learn nothing about the teams involved by three consecutive lopsided series in succession? Not willing to go that far myself.
Two Red Sox fans are going to get into an argument on a Yankee fan site?
Oh yeah? well I love the Sox inifinity plus one!!
I’ve never understood Joe Blanton. Never.
[30-36]
I thought they only played 18 times this year. 0-8 and then 9-1.
[36] Actually, when the Sox first played the Yankees, they were kind of a mess. Teix wasn’t firing all that much, Mariano wasn’t himself, no Rodriguez. Later, when they faced the Yankees, they were playing better. Not 9-1 better, but perhaps 6-4 better.
OK, maybe it was all just very good followed by very bad timing, w/r/t slumps. But I am paranoid about the Sox’ recent failures against the yankees, though it won’t matter if their season-long inability to hit good pitchers carries through into the ALDS.
Great stuff, SG. *applause*
Does anyone else see the MLB marketing gods trying to cast Pedroia in Jeter’s image? I mean, without the mention of hot dates, the whole shpiel yesterday went “i live for the postseason” and “we’re here to win one day at a time” etc. Maybe they have the same speechwriter, but I think one Jeter is enough until he retires and we clone him.
For player data, of course. But do we take stats so seriously that we contend we learn nothing about the teams involved by three consecutive lopsided series in succession? Not willing to go that far myself.
I mean, did we learn nothing? No, that’s a little extreme. But did we learn anything meaningful? We learned the Yankees are playing pretty damn well down the stretch. We learned that the Yankees were better in those games. The Yankees caught some breaks in those game, got some timely hits that the Sox didn’t, just like the Sox did and the Yankees didn’t in the first eight. There’s just very little you can glean from a subset of games like that in terms of predictive value, unless the Yankees had outsocred the Sox like 134-18 in those games - which, while it seemed like they did at times, they most certainly did not.
Does anyone else see the MLB marketing gods trying to cast Pedroia in Jeter’s image?
That could be as much Pedroia himself as much as it is MLB marketing - Pedroia is on the record as being a huge Jeter fan and supposedly basically followed him around thoroughout the WBC trying to emulate his habits.
[39] is correct. Even smaller SS!
Ok, someone explain this to me:
“Clint Barmes hits a sacrifice bunt. Ryan Spillborghs to first. Clint Barmes to first. None out.”
And yet, Clint Barmes doesn’t get a hit per official scorer. Phillies haven’t made an error.
So, is the fact someone gets a hit based on intent? I.e., if you intend to sacrifice you can never have a hit? How do you verify intent then? Or am I getting too worked up on something that will be corrected in the next half inning or so?
Also, it appears Blanton didn’t stick around for long, Happ came in and was promptly injured from something, and so Scott Eyre is now in.
[45] SO nobody told him he should have been following Jimmy Rollins around instead?
“two losses on virtual paper”
Wow, we’ve moved past regular paper.
You know, I have to admit, I miss Pete Abe. Once you get past the pettiness, he was a funny guy. Way funnier than the current lot. And I don’t need Sam Borden staring down at me while I’m trying to get my news.
[47] I did not see the play, but fielder’s choice, no out, no error is a fairly common official scoring decision. I would assume that the Phillies tried to get the lead runner and failed. As we say, it doesn’t have to be a wise choice. If the out at first was there for the taking, the Barmes deosn’t deserve to be credited with a hit.
How has SG not been stolen away from us by people with big pockets?
He refused to be a fool dancing on the strings held by all of those big shots.
SG has already secretly been picked to take over the Yankees GM post when Cashman retires. Hopefully he’ll choose many of you as consultants and I can get his coffee.
What accounts for the uptick in Vlad’s projected wOBA from his actual one?
I don’t miss Abraham, but I do agree that they need a different picture of Borden. He looks like Chad Jennings trying to act tough. Very confusing and mildly disturbing.
[44] Thanks Joe, I accept your logic. Doesn’t stop me from worrying, though that says more about me than the facts.
Look who’s up to bat for the Phillies! It’s Miguel Cairo!
Miguel Cairo is still in MLB? Good for him!
Miguel Cairo!
He should be playing 1st base and batting 3rd.
Did a Phillies pitcher get literally knocked out of the game? Hope is wasn’t too grisly.
I detest this business of interviewing managers/coaches in the middle of the game.
And why can’t my 6-year-old watch the playoffs without me having to explain what an erection is and why you should call your doctor if it lasts more than 4 hours?
Pedroia is on the record as being a huge Jeter fan and supposedly basically followed him around thoroughout the WBC trying to emulate his habits.
I have a very disturbing image of a Keebler elf hiding behind a shrub taking down notes as he watches Jeter put the moves on Minka Kelly.
Giambino sighting.
[60] I have a very disturbing image of a Keebler elf hiding behind a shrub taking down notes as he watches Jeter put the moves on Minka Kelly.
Or worse, an image of that elf practicing those moves a Minka Kelly blowup doll.
Isn’t Pedroia married? I guess he could still have the doll.
Isn’t Pedroia married? I guess he could still have the doll.
With a newborn. And really, he is just 26 or something like that. He just lost a lot of hair due to continuous licking of his head by Neyer and Gammo, followed by the whole contingent of MSM.
A friend of my tried to by Pedroia a shot a Patron. He turned it down.
And I’m pretty positive the reason the Yankees chose the ALDS they did was so they could watch Jim and Pam get married tonight.
Interesting thing I just saw on KLaw’s chat:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2009-standings.shtml
It looks like the Cubs will have the 15th (and thus, the last protected) pick in the 2010 draft. The Rays have the 16th (first unprotected) pick. The Cubs finished 0.5 games ahead of the Rays by virtue of not making up a rain out. With the 15th pick, the Cubs can sign a type A free agent and not lose the draft pick - the Rays would lose that pick if they sign a type A free agent. This is probably good news for the Yankees, but I’d be pissed if I was the Rays.
A friend of my tried to by Pedroia a shot a Patron. He turned it down.
Man this is butchered. “buy Pedroia a shot of”
He just lost a lot of hair due to continuous licking of his head by Neyer and Gammo
OK, now I’m trying to get that image of the Keebler Elf stalker back into my head.
With a newborn. And really, he is just 26 or something like that. He just lost a lot of hair due to continuous licking of his head by Neyer and Gammo, followed by the whole contingent of MSM.
I peed a little.
I think Manny is going for this look:

Does it become distracting at some point?
Is it weird of me to be mad that Joe Torre just brought in his closer for the 8th inning, to face the Cards’ 3 best hitters, when he’s losing by a run?
I mean, the move is smart, and unorthodox. But this used to be Scott Proctor territory, back in 2006.
[71] - Ah, but you see, Torre has the benefit of having 2 “closers” now. Sherrill has the all-important “closing experience” and therefor is able to pitch in the 9th inning without crapping himself.
[70] Manny wants to look like me?
“Good for him.”
I remember that.
With a newborn.
All true… and she’s apparently down with dying her hair dark brown and having her husband call her “Minka.”
Torre wishes that he had a Scott Proctor at his disposal this series, but he’s just forced to make do with the likes of Broxton and Sherrill.
Seriously, though, bringing the closer in down a run in a playoff game when you have the next day off isn’t all that unconventional. Especially at home.
Seriously, though, bringing the closer in down a run in a playoff game when you have the next day off isn’t all that unconventional. Especially at home.
In the 8th? It wasn’t conventional 15 years ago. I submit that it is now, and I challenge you, MC, to waste 5 minutes of your life proving me wrong.
Matt Kemp was born in Midwest City, Oklahoma.
Is there a more bland, generic city name?
So does Larussa go back to Wainwright in the 9th or does he roll the dice with Franklin?
To continue from the last thread, I’m hoping the Angels win. More satisfying to beat because it never happens, easier to stomach a loss because their fans (do they have fans?) are a million miles away, and I can’t bring myself to root for Boston.
[78] It would be awesome if La Russa decides to have two pitchers pitch in sequence to the same hitter. That would be some confusion and farce.
His number guy tells him that hitter A is pretty poor at hitting the first pitch from a RH pitcher, but he is pretty good at hitting the third pitch from a RH hitter, but not so good against a LH pitcher. So he will pitch the first pitcher for the first two pitches, and should the count go to the third pitch, he will bring in the lefty, and put the righty somewhere in the field. And maybe for the fifth pitch, he brings in the righty again.
Matt Holliday’s free agent price went down a little.
That call wasn’t unreasonable.
Steve Phillips, within a space of two minutes in his chat today:
Alfredo (Miami)
With Joba going to the bullpen, I see the Yankees having a similar situation then what happened in the late 90’s as they trim the game to 6 innings. However, if they advance will it be a good idea ti leave Joba in the Pen or place him back on the rotation?
Steve Phillips (2:07 PM)
I think at this point, Joba is probably better serving the Yankees in the bullpen than in the starting rotation. Chad Gaudin can pick up that starter’s role and be effective with that slider. It will be interesting to see if Girardi and the Yankees can be lucky enough to advance through the first round.
DG (Atlanta)
How well do the Yanks and Twins match up in the series?
Steve Phillips (2:09 PM)
The Yankees have a distinct advantage in that they by far the better bullpen, although I have great respect for Joe Nathan. The Yankees also have by far the better offense. The Yankees should win the series, and on paper, should probably sweep the series. It’s impossible to quantify the confidence and momentum the Twins have and how it will ultimately display itself in the series. It will be a major upset, however, if the Twins were to find a way to win the series.
Wow. LA is going to win this series I guess.
Ryan Franklin is a closer? Yes, David Robertson can be a closer right now. Easily.
The Cards could probably bounce back in a seven game series. In a five game series, it will be very tough to do.
So, when does the “Pujols is a choker” storyline start?
STL absolutely needed to win at least one game with Carpenter or Wainwright on the mound. They are toast.
The Post is reporting that the Yankees are “leaning heavily” toward keeping Chamberlain in the pen should they make the ALCS, which is hardly surprising – Gaudin has been miles better as a starter over the past month – but what if they need a starter in this series? Mother Nature may end up forcing the Yankees to make the call on Joba sooner than they expected.
I got the same impression about Joba’s likely role from listening to Girardi with Francesa earlier today.
So, when does the “Pujols is a choker” storyline start?
Probably not until that Homerun that he hit against Lidge in game 5 in Houston in 2005 finally lands.
So, when does the “Pujols is a choker” storyline start?
A ring grants immunity from such attacks.
[89] I can’t say I think this is that bad an idea. I want Joba in the rotation in the long run as much as the rest of you, but I can’t necessarily say that I think he has made the adjustments necessary to be effective as a starter right now. I don’t hate the idea of having Gaudin try to keep them in the game for 5 innings (or even 4+) and then mix and match after that. It is possible that Joba might be more effective coming in and throwing hard and angry for 1 inning.
But I don’t know. Maybe Gaudin will just get hammered. I certainly feel better about him pitching against the Twins than against the Sox.
A ring grants immunity from such attacks.
That’s probably true, but I suspect that there would be an A-Rodian exception to that general rule.
Why do the Red Sox fans get their own play by play, Don Orsillo, for TBS games and Yankee fans are stuck with Chip freakin’ Caray?
That’s probably true, but I suspect that there would be an A-Rodian exception to that general rule.
Hopefully, we’ll get to find out.
Careys and Bucks should be on that list of things you can check off so that the exterminators will eliminate them.
I love it when an announcer lauds a player’s versatility by saying “he can DH,” like that’s a special skill.
And Ellsbury is fast enough to make the first out before anyone else can get it.
[95] If the Yankees win the WS and AS-Rod wins series MVP, the storyline will be about how he finally learned to hit under pressure. This will be just as annoying as the current storyline.
just as annoying
Having read this, MacEnroe is hurling things across my living room, hollering - “Frog - you cannot be serious!
Did you forget the phrase If the Yankees win the WS and AS-Rod wins series MVP?
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