Monday, October 1, 2007
2007 Yankees vs. Indians ALDS Breakdown - Part One
Well, it took six months to get here, but here we are. The Yankees didn't win the AL East for the first time in 10 seasons, but took advantage of the wild card to get into the tournament. Like most Yankee fans, I was just praying the Yankees would avoid Los Angeles of Anaheim, but I'm reminded of last year when everyone wanted to get the Tigers instead of the Twins, and we saw how well that worked out.The first thing I'd suggest to everyone is to disregard the fact that the Yankees took all six games they played against Cleveland this year. That has no predictive utility as far as what we can expect in this upcoming series.
Today I'm going to look at the position players on both teams to see how they compare on both offense and defense. Regular readers know what this means. It's time for some charts!
First up, the most likely starting lineup for the Indians:
| Starters | POS | AVG | OBP | SLG | BR/G | ZR | DR/G | |
| Sizemore,Grady | CF | 2007 | .277 | .390 | .462 | .82 | .916 | 0.07 |
| Proj | .284 | .372 | .490 | .82 | .904 | 0.05 | ||
| Blake,Casey | 3B | 2007 | .270 | .339 | .437 | .65 | .737 | -0.05 |
| Proj | .264 | .333 | .443 | .66 | .738 | -0.05 | ||
| Hafner,Travis | DH | 2007 | .266 | .385 | .451 | .73 | .000 | 0.00 |
| Proj | .286 | .400 | .541 | .87 | .000 | 0.00 | ||
| Martinez,Victor | C | 2007 | .301 | .374 | .505 | .78 | .000 | 0.00 |
| Proj | .294 | .369 | .472 | .73 | .000 | 0.00 | ||
| Garko,Ryan F | 1B | 2007 | .289 | .359 | .483 | .71 | .823 | -0.02 |
| Proj | .276 | .346 | .456 | .65 | .813 | -0.04 | ||
| Peralta,Jhonny | SS | 2007 | .270 | .341 | .430 | .59 | .793 | -0.07 |
| Proj | .272 | .342 | .442 | .61 | .808 | -0.03 | ||
| Lofton,Kenny | LF | 2007 | .296 | .363 | .414 | .60 | .868 | 0.01 |
| Proj | .296 | .353 | .410 | .58 | .853 | -0.02 | ||
| Nixon,Trot | RF | 2007 | .251 | .342 | .336 | .46 | .863 | -0.01 |
| Proj | .257 | .347 | .385 | .52 | .869 | 0.00 | ||
| Cabrera,Asdrubal J | 2B | 2007 | .283 | .354 | .421 | .51 | .847 | 0.06 |
| Proj | .261 | .312 | .378 | .43 | .847 | 0.06 | ||
| Total per game | 2007 | 5.85 | 0.0 | |||||
| Proj | 5.87 | 0.0 | ||||||
| Total per 162 games | 2007 | 947 | -2 | |||||
| Proj | 951 | -6 |
2007
BR/G: Batting runs per game using linear weights
ZR: Actual 2007 zone rating at the listed position
DR/G: Defensive runs saved above average per game
Proj
BR/G: Batting runs per game using linear weights and weighed 2/3 on the player's projection entering 2007 and 1/3 on their actual 2007 stats
ZR: Weighted average ZR at the listed position
DR/G: Defensive runs saved above average per game
One of the mistakes most people make (and one that I am guilty of at times as well) is to focus just on this season when trying to figure out what we can expect projecting forward. To rectify this, I've calculated revised projections on offense and defense for both teams. The projections are just 2/3 of their projections coming into the season and 1/3 of their 2007 actual performance. So after each player, you will see two stat lines. The first is their actual 2007 performance, and the second is their revised projection. For players who spent time in the minors I've included their MLEs(major league equivalencies).
BR/G is an estimate of how many batting runs per game a player will provide from the lineup slot they are slotted in. For this exercise, I did not do any position-adjustments because I just want to compare the relative strengths of the whole lineup.
ZR is the player's zone rating at the position they are listed at. I then calculate their defensive runs saved per game assuming a typical distribution of chances.
So looking at the Indians, as a collective group they've played right around where their projections say they should be. They're an average defensive team for the most part, and a strong lineup that would score 950 runs or so if they could run all their starters out there 162 times.
It all starts at the top with Grady Sizemore. Overall on the season Sizemore was worth about twenty runs more than an average CF on offense and was +11 defensively, so he was three wins better than an average CF, or five wins better than a replacement-level one. Sizemore has issues with left-handed pitching (career OPS of .922 vs righties, .716 vs lefties) but the current Yankee staff is not really able to exploit that. I suppose the Yankees could consider using Ron Villone against him in a key spot or something.
Casey Blake is a decent hitter (career OPS+ of 106). He's versatile enough to play the infield corners or see some spot duty in the OF, but right now he's Cleveland's starting third baseman.
Travis "Pronk" Hafner is a scary hitter who had a down year after three outstanding seasons. Hafner led the American League in OPS+ from 2004-2006. Hafner season line was disappointing for him, but he appears to be heating up as he hit .316/.414/.551 in September. He's another player who has a platoon split, but again the Yankees don't have the personnel to do anything about it.
Victor Martinez was worth 29 runs above the average catcher on offense this season. Only Jorge Posada was better. Martinez also reversed a trend of bad defense. I have him as +4 runs above an average catcher this season.
The Indians' 1, 3, and 4 hitters are a damn good group collectively. I'd put them up with anyone in baseball's right now.
Ryan Garko's a touch above average offensively for a first baseman, and a touch below average defensively.
Jhonny Peralta looked like he was going to be the next great shortstop in his age 23 season, putting up an OPS+ of 139 and being 11 runs above average defensively. He dropped to an OPS+ of 85 at age 24 in addition to losing 14 runs of defensive value. He rebounded a bit this season with an OPS+ of 105 but his defense got worse. Overall, he's an average SS but he's talented enough to be dangerous in a short series.
Kenny Lofton's homecoming to Cleveland hasn't gone all that well, as he's hit .283/.344/.370 after being acquired from Texas earlier in the season. He's been average in LF after playing mainly CF for Texas. His overall season line is still certainly respectable, and he's still a stolen base threat even at age 40. Lofton will probably be platooned with Jason Michaels against Andy Pettitte.
Trot Nixon is no stranger to Yankee fans. He may not get all the starts in RF as the Indians have 24 year old Franklin Gutierrez as well as the aforementioned Michaels and David Dellucci around.
Asdrubal Cabrera appears to have won the second base job from the disappointing Josh Barfield. At just 21 years old he's put up an OPS+ of 107 (in very limited playing time) as well as playing plus defense at all three infield skill positions (again in a very small sample size).
The thing that stands out for me is that are no dead spots in the lineup. Top to bottom, if the Indians start Cabrera at second, Gutierrez in RF and Lofton in LF every player has an OPS+ greater than 100 on the season.
Cleveland's lineup is pretty solid, but they also have a pretty good bench.
| Bench | POS | AVG | OBP | SLG | BR/G | ZR | DR/G | |
| Gomez,Chris | 1B | 2007 | .297 | .317 | .374 | .44 | .700 | -0.19 |
| Proj | .286 | .328 | .368 | .46 | .805 | -0.05 | ||
| Shoppach,Kelly B | C | 2007 | .261 | .310 | .472 | .58 | .000 | 0.00 |
| Proj | .240 | .307 | .437 | .54 | .000 | 0.00 | ||
| Barfield,Josh L | 2B | 2007 | .243 | .270 | .324 | .34 | .806 | -0.04 |
| Proj | .259 | .300 | .389 | .47 | .812 | -0.03 | ||
| Gutierrez,Franklin R | RF | 2007 | .266 | .318 | .472 | .58 | .971 | 0.20 |
| Proj | .260 | .316 | .433 | .54 | .971 | 0.20 | ||
| Michaels,Jason | LF | 2007 | .270 | .324 | .397 | .48 | .858 | -0.01 |
| Proj | .267 | .334 | .406 | .52 | .851 | -0.02 | ||
| Dellucci,David | LF | 2007 | .230 | .297 | .382 | .45 | .835 | -0.05 |
| Proj | .244 | .329 | .427 | .55 | .835 | -0.05 |
As I mentioned above, Gutierrez is a name to watch out for, as I could see him taking starts away from Trot Nixon. Other than that I'd expect the starting lineup to remain pretty consistent. Kelly Shoppach is the best backup catcher in the league BTW. He was the seventh most valuable offensive catcher in the AL despite only getting 177 plate appearances. Chris Gomez and Barfield are around as glove men primarily, although Gomez is not an automatic out. Dellucci missed most of the season but appeared in a couple of games last week so he may be back on the roster.
Here's how the Yankees starting nine compare.
| Starters | POS | AVG | OBP | SLG | BR/G | ZR | DR/G | |
| Damon,Johnny | LF | 2007 | .270 | .351 | .396 | .68 | .861 | 0.00 |
| Proj | .283 | .358 | .438 | .73 | .870 | 0.01 | ||
| Jeter,Derek | SS | 2007 | .322 | .388 | .452 | .75 | .765 | -0.14 |
| Proj | .322 | .387 | .452 | .76 | .803 | -0.05 | ||
| Abreu,Bobby | RF | 2007 | .283 | .369 | .445 | .72 | .858 | -0.02 |
| Proj | .279 | .382 | .446 | .74 | .863 | -0.01 | ||
| Rodriguez,Alex | 3B | 2007 | .314 | .422 | .645 | 1.04 | .765 | 0.01 |
| Proj | .296 | .397 | .568 | .91 | .762 | 0.00 | ||
| Matsui,Hideki | DH | 2007 | .285 | .367 | .488 | .72 | .000 | 0.00 |
| Proj | .287 | .373 | .478 | .72 | .000 | 0.00 | ||
| Posada,Jorge | C | 2007 | .338 | .426 | .543 | .86 | .000 | 0.00 |
| Proj | .285 | .385 | .477 | .72 | .000 | 0.00 | ||
| Cano,Robinson | 2B | 2007 | .306 | .353 | .488 | .66 | .846 | 0.06 |
| Proj | .307 | .347 | .477 | .64 | .832 | 0.02 | ||
| Cabrera,Melky | CF | 2007 | .273 | .327 | .391 | .49 | .903 | 0.04 |
| Proj | .279 | .333 | .402 | .52 | .893 | 0.02 | ||
| Mientkiewicz,Doug | 1B | 2007 | .277 | .350 | .440 | .53 | .831 | -0.01 |
| Proj | .260 | .330 | .401 | .48 | .871 | 0.04 | ||
| Total per game | 2007 | 6.45 | -0.1 | |||||
| Proj | 6.22 | 0.0 | ||||||
| Total per 162 games | 2007 | 1045 | -11 | |||||
| Proj | 1008 | 7 |
I'd assume this is the lineup of choice based on the last few weeks, and honestly the way Doug Mientkiewicz is hitting now I wouldn't mess with it. As good as Cleveland's lineup is, the Yankees project to be around fifty runs better over a full season.
Johnny Damon is hitting .319/.370/.496 since June 21 (over 55 games). He's also playing very good LF defense recently. If you take out his first four games in LF he has a zone rating of .881 which would be equivalent to being a +6 defender over a full season.
Derek Jeter has been dealing with nagging injuries this year, and it's hurt his offense and his defense. He was still a +22 offensive player this season, but last year he was +48. Jeter had an OPS of .871 pre-All Star Break and .804 after. He ended the year at -20 runs defensively compared to an average AL SS, so he did at least hit enough to compensate for his defensive weakness this year.
Bobby Abreu is the bellwether for my favorite selective endpoint of the season, May 30. From that date on, Abreu hit .309/.396/.520 with 14 HRs and 34 2Bs. When Abreu hits, the Yankees score runs in bunches. In Yankee wins, Abreu hit .298/.374/.470. In Yankee losses, he hit .259/.361/.410. He's also playing passable defense in RF overall. On the season he was -3 runs defensively but over his last 52 games he was +1.
Alex Rodriguez. You know the deal. He's the best player in the American League and will be under an intense microscope from the start. We'll see how it goes.
Hideki Matsui fell off pretty badly after a ridiculous hot streak. From Jul 3 to Aug 25, Matsui hit an amazing .365/.423/.651 with 15 HRs in 48 games. Over the last 25 games he's hit just .196/.312/.359. A hot Matsui can carry the team, but a cold one could bury them. Hopefully the extended break gets his knees healthier. In his career, Matsui has hit .308/.382/.555 as a DH, which is the role I expect him to play in the postseason.
Jorge Posada has hit .241/.358/.388 in the postseason in his career. It'd be nice if he could do better than that this year.
Robinson Cano can be maddeningly streaky. A look at his raw stat line might make it seem like he fell off this year, but there were some encouraging signs of development. Cano drew 34 non-intentional walks this season after drawing a total of 30 in his first two season. His Isolated Power (SLG - AVG) was just about the same as last year. He didn't hit as many line drives as he did in 2006 overall, and that is a at least part of the explanation for the drop in average. Through May 15 he was hitting .234/.276/.312 with 7 BB and 29 Ks in 152 plate appearances. So he was walking in 4.6% of his plate appearances and fanning in 19.1%. From May 16 on he hit .328/.376/.540 with 32 BB and 56 Ks in 517 plate appearances, so he walked in 6.1% of his plate appearances and whiffed in 10.8%. One last thing about Cano. Last year he was worth 21 runs above an average 2B offensively and he was basically average defensively. This year he's been worth 14 runs above average on offense but he was also a +9 defender, so overall he was a touch more valuable in 2007 than 2006.
Melky Cabrera has fallend off dramatically in the second half of the season on offense. He peaked on Aug 13 with a line of .302/.351/.452. Since then he's hit .203/.269/.241. It could be related to fatigue or it could be that Melky was playing over his head and came back down to earth. My guess is it's a combination of both things. He ended the season -12 runs on offense and +6 runs on defense, so he was below average overall. This doesn't include the value of his arm, which may boost him back up close to average.
Doug Mientkiewicz was a signing that most Yankee fans hated. No, Mientkiewicz isn't a great player, but there were very few options available this offseason. After returning from his injury, Mientkiewicz hit .429/.510/.619, which pushed his season line to an OPS+ of 112. He's also put up a zone rating of .900 since then. No, he's not that good, but I'd expect him to be able to play good defense and get on base at a respectable clip. Jason Giambi's bat just never got going so I think Mientkiewicz gets the nod here, and I have a tough time quibbling about it.
One thing the Yankees need to be cognizant of is that Cleveland has two tough lefty relievers in Rafael Perez and Aaron Fultz. Lefties have hit .142/.214/.217 against Perez in his career, and have hit .236/.303/.349 against Fultz in his career. If the Yankees use the lineup above they will limit their vulnerability to the platoon advantage. The Yankees will also have Shelley Duncan looming in the background if they need to pinch-hit for Mientkiewicz against a lefty (although Mientkiewicz has historically hit lefties a bit better than righties). Something I found interesting is that the Yankee offense has overperformed expectations. That's probably easily explained by Rodriguez and Posada blowing away their projections.
Meanwhile, the defense has underperformed expectations slightly this season although it's still probably the best defensive team they've had since the late 90s. They actually project to be an at least average defensive team. Damon in left is a big upgrade on Matsui, Melky in center is a big upgrade on Damon in center, Abreu is an upgrade over Gary Sheffield, Alex Rodriguez 2007 is an upgrade on Alex Rodriguez 2005 and 2006, and Robinson Cano projects to be above average as well, although maybe not as good as he's been in 2007. And the shortstop bangs supermodels.
Speaking of Shelley Duncan, here's the Yankee bench.
| Bench | POS | AVG | OBP | SLG | BR/G | ZR | DR/G | |
| Giambi,Jason | DH | 2007 | .236 | .356 | .433 | .59 | .000 | 0.00 |
| Proj | .247 | .394 | .488 | .70 | .000 | 0.00 | ||
| Betemit,Wilson | 3B | 2007 | .229 | .331 | .454 | .59 | .721 | -0.09 |
| Proj | .248 | .326 | .442 | .56 | .721 | -0.09 | ||
| Molina,Jose | C | 2007 | .257 | .267 | .340 | .36 | .000 | 0.00 |
| Proj | .244 | .274 | .353 | .39 | .000 | 0.00 | ||
| Duncan,Shelly S | 1B | 2007 | .265 | .341 | .533 | .78 | 1.000 | 0.22 |
| Proj | .271 | .347 | .542 | .78 | .825 | -0.02 |
The Yankee bench is also strong this season, which is usually not the case. There are three legit power threats on the bench in Jason Giambi, Duncan and Wilson Betemit. Jose Molina's projected OPS of .627 isn't very good, but he probably won't have to play all that much and he's a good defender. I could see Giambi getting a few starts at first base if Mientkiewicz struggles or if he succeeds in a pinch-hitting role.
I didn't include Bronson Sardinha or Alberto Gonzalez in here because it's doubtful they'd be used for anything other than pinch-running. The thing is, if Giambi is not starting who do you pinch run for? Posada? I wouldn't risk losing his bat in any games.
Overall, the straight lineup comparison seems to favor the Yankees on both offense and defense, but the Indians do present some matchup problems for the Yankees with Fultz, Perez and C.C. Sabathia, so keep that in mind. I'll write up the pitchers in a day or two.
Incidentally, as torrid as the Yankees have been in the second half, since August 15th the Indians have been better. Cleveland has gone 31-12 since that date, a .721 winning percentage. The Yankees have gone 27-16, a .628 winning percentage.
Comments
Boy, smart girls are tough to impress. I desperately need some tips. On a sidenote, nice post SG.
SG, you’re the best.
A.Phil, I find that intelligent women always get highly aroused when I tell them I post to a sabermetrically-inclined comment board.
Why do I get the sinking feeling that Ron Villone is going to give up a key homer to Travis Halfner during this series because Torre wants to use him as the LOOGY?
Hopefully, the Yanks will sweep in three blowouts.
SG, they don’t pay you enough for this.
Amazing, SG.
I didn’t realize the Tribe had such a complete lineup. I was really surprised Barfield didn’t pan out this year. The guy was almost 20-20 last year in Petco in about 3/4 of a season and I figured he would ultimately slot between Sizemore and Hafner, which coming into this year looked to be about the best lineup spot in baseball.
Also, Joba’s adjusted ERA+ this year was 1156. Yeah.
Regular readers know what this means. It’s time for some charts!
Sweet. :::sees no pie charts::: Damn.
Nice job. Looking forward to the all important pitching matchups.
SG, you get paid for this?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an exciting game (Padres-Rockies) called so boringly. It might as well be the 97th game between the Pirates and Houston.
Was Brocail on the Yankees for a few minutes?
SG, you get paid for this?
Knowledge is my only reward. I do most of my blogging at work though, so I guess I do get paid indirectly.
Was Brocail on the Yankees for a few minutes?
Nope. Are you thinking Jim Brower?
This was more awesome than the one-game playoff going to the top of the 12th.
“Nope. Are you thinking Jim Brower?”
Dan Miceli.
Michael Barrett to be the hero.
Colorado and San Diego fans must be on pins and needles. I’m just glad the Yanks don’t have to win an extra inning game in order to make the playoffs.
Are there any people of color in Colorado?
Besides professional athletes, I mean.
Colorado has used eight pitchers thus far. That’s almost Torre-like, except for the results.
If the Rox win, all 5 teams from the NL West will have been in the playoffs over the last 6 years. That’s pretty good for divisional parity. Since 2000, only 2 teams from the AL East have played in the postseason, 4 from the Central, 3 from the West, 4 from the NL East, 3 from the Central.
If I were a Padre fan, I’d be real upset that Bud Black was consistently putting my team in a spot where they could lose with Hoffman on the bench. This reminds me of another manager…
Colorado (which means “red” in Spanish) used to be part of Mexico, so the odds are that there are indeed a few non-Anglos.
This game got me thinking of The Greatest Baseball Game Of All Time, Game 2 of the ‘95 ALDS, and I forgot about this gem:
“Bottom of the 12th, Yankees Batting, Behind 4-5, Jeff Nelson facing 9-1-2
O —- 4 R Velarde Strikeout Swinging
—- 7 W Boggs Walk
Tim Belcher replaces Jeff Nelson pitching; Jorge Posada pinch runs for Wade Boggs batting 1st.”
Wheels Posado gets in the game!
“Colorado (which means “red” in Spanish) used to be part of Mexico, so the odds are that there are indeed a few non-Anglos.”
Well they’re clearly not Rockies fans (or can’t afford the tickets).
Hey Dan M., were you on the Yankees for a few minutes, pitching in relief, 2003 or 2004?
Colorado is 83% white as of 2000
Either these bullpens are doing a fantastic job or these lineups are inept.
Is this parade of San Diego relievers actually good, or is it merely the fact that they play in Petco Field?
If the Yanks manage extra innings from here on out, their only chance of winning is to score while Joba or Mariano is in the game.
You must be thinking of TanQuanGorMo. They were the only ones who got relief innings those two years.
In each of the last four years now, a Yankee has finished in the top 3 in games pitched.
“Is this parade of San Diego relievers actually good, or is it merely the fact that they play in Petco Field?”
Don’t forget that they’re pitching a lot of innings in the NL West (high AAA).
Wow, Jorge Julio is in the game. The edge definitely shifts to San Diego.
Dan M, you said it: I can’t believe Hoffman isn’t in this game?
Oh, he’s coming in now.
Nice call, IE.
8-6 San Diego. Jorge Julio is perhaps the only reliever in baseball who is worse than Kyle Farnsworth. He may even be worse than Sean Henn.
It would be cool if a WS game came down to Rivera and Hoffman, 9 years after ‘98.
Julio is still throwing hard, touching 97, but still can’t get anyone out - just like the days when he closed for Lee Mazzilli’s Orioles.
Personally, I’d rather see a Yankees-Cubs series.
Dang, I would’ve liked the Rox to pull it off - they have a lot of players that seem pretty likable. Needless to say, very unlikely now.
OTOH I’m happy that it looks like Peavy will get another postseason shot. The guy is probably the second best starter in baseball and has had some really rough October outings up to this point in his career.
Holliday’s error and the miscall on the Atkins non-HR loom HUGE.
He’s like a poor man’s Armando Benitez.
Yeah, I’d like the Cubs and Phillies to advance and it’d be fun to meet either one in the WS. I’m not interested in playing franchises I still think of as expansion teams (anything after 1968).
I don’t know what the losing team’s fans are going to do tomorrow… this game is really emotionally draining.
Maybe I’m stereotyping unfairly, but I don’t think fans in Colorado and San Diego really care.
Tomorrow, the Colorado people will go mountain biking and the San Diego people will go surfing.
All of them will be high.
“If the Yanks manage extra innings from here on out, their only chance of winning is to score while Joba or Mariano is in the game.”
Phil Hughes. You’ll see.
8-8 and Holliday just won the MVP.
Colorado has tied the game at 8 against Hoffman and the winning run is on third base with no outs. If San Diego does indeed have fans, they must be dying right now.
I guess Bud Black was right not to insert Hoffman earlier.
The announcer just said that Giles wasn’t tall enough to make the catch.
It’s funny cause he’s short.
That was a crazy game.
Wow. What a game! Great start to the postseason.
What agony for the non-surfing San Diego baseball fans. It’s the equivalent of last Friday’s game against the Orioles where Mariano blew a 3 run lead - only in that case it didn’t really matter.
Looks like Holliday should have been called out but clearly Hoffman was doing his best to cough that one up. Poor guy.
The umpires deserve a collective beating after the season ends - preferably by Shelley Duncan.
I’m not surprised the worst umpired season in my baseball viewing life ended on a blown call.
Un freakin’ believable.
And if the World Series ends in a similar fashion, the for Cuban heavyweight Teofilo Stevenson should be called out of retirement and flown into New York so as to mete out the grimmest of punishments.
Oh, and about first base… I don’t think it’s Dougie-M vs. Base Clogger as much as Dougie M. vs. a Betemit (or Giambi)/Duncan platoon.
I would rather have the platoon.
I don’t want Giambi to wear a glove in the post-season. Errors can be overcome during a 162 game season but not as easily during a best of five series. Moreover, errors lead to starters leaving games earlier due to higher pitch counts - meaning more innings for the Yanks’ wimpy middle relievers. Lastly, Giambi’s bat has been rather anemic of late. It’s not as if the choice to keep him on the bench is a difficult one at this point.
Having an out machine like Dougie-M vs. the best pitchers in the game makes less sense to me. He had a decent time at the plate this year (when not on the DL), we have no reason in the world to believe he’ll keep it up. Anything against Betemit/Duncan platoon?
A Betemit/Duncan platoon is fine by me - although there is zero chance Torre makes that choice. There is a chance Duncan will start as the DH on Thursday rather than Matsui, which makes sense - especially as Hideki is 0-11 lifetime vs. Sabathia and hasn’t exactly been tearing up the league of late. Basically, A-Rod, Jeter and Posada will have to do the damage against C.C.
Duncan vs. a lefty makes just too much freakin’ sense. I would kill for a Dougie-M/Duncan platoon at this point, though Torre probably thinks he can take the hitting hit for all that defense… sigh.
“I would kill for a Dougie-M/Duncan platoon at this point”
I also wish Mariano Duncan were here, hitting .340.
I didn’t include Bronson Sardinha or Alberto Gonzalez in here because it’s doubtful they’d be used for anything other than pinch-running. The thing is, if Giambi is not starting who do you pinch run for? Posada? I wouldn’t risk losing his bat in any games.
Depending on the situation, there are 3 guys it makes sense to pinch-run for (other than Giambi, of course):
1) S. Duncan
2) Matsui
3) Posada
In each case you need to be careful about it. E.g., Posada gets a lead-off double with the game tied in the top of the eight, sure, pinch-run for him. You’d have to feel good that if that run came home, Joba and Mo could finish the game. But sure, you don’t want to pinch-run just because there is a formula.
Also, it probably wouldn’t hurt to project Gonzalez or Sardinha. Unfortunately, players get hurt in the PS, and Sardinha could suddenly be the starting RF in game 3…
I would agree with IE that defense comes first and Minky is the best. Betemit would be a close second, but his bat has been less than impressive at times.
I wouldn’t play Matsui against CC, but instead use Duncan as the dh. Matsui can come off the bench. He’s been a litte slowed down anyway.
A year ago it seemed like everyone was stealing against Victor Martinez. Has he gotten better at throwing out runners and do any of you expect Torre to gamble on the basepaths, particularly if getting people on first is difficult?
Hoffman’s performance last night reminds that the playoff atmosphere can change what we come to expect on a routine basis and players don’t always play to their norms. Peavy often won’t give up five or more runs and Hoffman evidently was better than that during the season.
I also agree with IE that a game like that (last night’s) with the Indians won’t work well if our pen gets extended. The Yanks simply need to find a way to score often and especially late.
“I would agree with IE that defense comes first and Minky is the best. Betemit would be a close second, but his bat has been less than impressive at times”
And Minky’s bat has been impressive? Guys, why aren’t you pushing for Molina over Posada if defense is so important? Maybe Alberto Gonzalez over Jeter.
Sleepy- Remember that last Boston game where Jeter hit the 3 run homer. Probably my favorite game of the year so far anyway. Do you remember the runs Minky saved early in the game? If that play hadn’t been made the Rocket may have imploded. That was just as good in many ways as an offensive contribution and maybe worth more because it allowed Clemens some time to find himself. That’s the kind of moment I think may be important in a short series. There’s also the propensity for Jeter and A-rod to make poor throws and you need a guy who is good at making picks.
i would have much more energy to fight the giambi/mientkiewicz fight if Giambi hadn’t looked like absolute dogcrap for months.
it’s only an interesting debate when the guy with the poor glove is actually hitting.
but he’s not, so you may as well play mientkiewicz for all his glove-ery goodness.
Yeah. You play the hot hand, and right now, ManCaveItch is the hot hand. He’s not only a superior fielder, but he’s been out-hitting Giambi handily for a while now. I know he’s not as good a hitter as Giambi when Giambi is right (few are!), but that does not appear to be the case.
joeln, I don’t give a flying crap what happens in one game. Anything can happen in one game. And it’s impossible to tell that a) Betemit or Shelly wouldn’t have made that play b) how many games we will lose because Dougie-M is a bad hitter. You can tell me when an error costs a game, it’s obvious, but not a bad at-bat. It also underlines my point: why not have Molina catch over Posada if defense is THAT important?
Rob, “hot hands” is a ridiculous idea. There’s no reason why a guy who has a hit in five straight games will get one in the sixth, or a guy who has five straight hitless games wouldn’t.
why not have Molina catch over Posada if defense is THAT important?
Because there’s a 200 point difference in OPS, which no amount of good defense will make up for.
Currently Dougie M. (.789) has a 95 point edge on Betemit (.694) in OPS. Yes, he has a lower OPS than Duncan (.883) by about 90 points, but if we’re talking about giving at bats away, Duncan has a 33% K rate, Betemit has a 39% K rate, and Dougie M. has a 17% K rate.
The fact is, right now he’s an offensive threat roughly equivalent to Giambi and Duncan and provides superior defense. The one guy who may be able to play 1st base with a similar aptitude has just a few games under his belt at that position (gee, worked out great for us last October) and is a strikeout waiting to happen.
Great analysis, SG. Cleveland hasn’t been getting enough respect in the AL. As you pointed out, they have a solid lineup, they’ve been hotter than the Yankees over the last month and a half, and they have three strong lefty pitchers who have the potential to hurt the Yankee lineup.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an exciting game (Padres-Rockies) called so boringly. It might as well be the 97th game between the Pirates and Houston.
You know, I agree that the TBS guys are boring, but I actually found it kind of refreshing, and am sort of looking forward to a more subdued broadcast for the Yankee games, as opposed to the busy, over-hyped presentation of Fox or ESPN.
I guess Bud Black was right not to insert Hoffman earlier.
It’s a small sample size so it’s unfair, but Hoffman has blown a lot of big saves. If he converts one Saturday or yesterday, the Pads are in the playoffs.
Regarding first base: I think the anti-Minky sentiment is misguided at this point. He’s without a doubt the Yanks’ best defender at first, he’s been one of the team’s hottest hitters in recent weeks, and though he may be below average offensively for a first baseman, his career OPS+ is an even 100. I’ll take his plus defense and average offense over the other options. And I like Betemit, but why do some seem so eager to get his .229 batting average into the lineup?
Rob, “hot hands” is a ridiculous idea. There’s no reason why a guy who has a hit in five straight games will get one in the sixth, or a guy who has five straight hitless games wouldn’t.
In the same way that the best predictor of a stock’s next tick is its previous tick, a guy’s last at bat IS the best predictor of his next at bat. Just don’t try to draw that trend line out very far into the future. If a good hitter is in a slump it is more likely that his slump will continue in the short run, even though he will likely pull out of it eventually. Giambi should not be at 1B over Haywire.
Cleveland hasn’t been getting enough respect in the AL.
Cleveland (as a city) gets less respect than Rodney Dangerfield. Yakov Smirnov used to do a funny bit about how every country has a city like Cleveland. In Soviet Union we have Cleveland…
—-If a good hitter is in a slump it is more likely that his slump will continue in the short run, even though he will likely pull out of it eventually.—-
Is this true? I know I read a chapter about this in “the book”, but I can’t remember. My gut says no.
CT that doesn’t make any sense at all. For one thing, a stock’s last tick is related to its next tick, at-bats are basically unrelated. Also, why would slumps ever end? You should define your terms. What constitutes a “slump” or “breaking out of a slump”
kronicfatigue, “The Book” concludes: “Knowing that a hitter has been in or is in the midst of a hot or cold streak has little predictive value.”
Man, I really wish the Yankees had drawn the Angels, who are so obviously the weakest team in the playoffs. I don’t care about history; the Indians are WAY better. I have a terrible feeling that the Yankees are going to get spanked. And I was really confident they would crush the Angels…I dunno, just gut feelings…The Yankees don’t miss enough bats.
I agree WJ- with Shields struggling the Indians are a much tougher draw. They have a deeper lineup and facing Sabathia twice is not a picnic in the park. At least we dodge Carmona twice and maybe we can get to Borowsi.
Cleveland pitchers have better ERAs+ in each game except for game 3 which is a push. The Yankees hitters have higher OPSs+. Has anyone ever cross referenced what and OPS+ of x verus an ERA+ of Y will yield within a given confidence level?
I think Cleveland has been getting plenty of respect.
7 out of 10 ESPN “experts” picked Cleveland to win the series.
“Jorge Posada has hit .241/.358/.388 in the postseason in his career. It’d be nice if he could do better than that this year.”
He did better than that the past two post-seasons, with 1.012 & 1.449 OPS in 2005 & 2006, respectively. Hope that continues this year.
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